View Poll Results: Is Jon Lester a HOFer?

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Thread: Is Jon Lester a HOFer?

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    Is Jon Lester a HOFer?

    Lester wrapped up a superb career in 2021, finishing with:

    200-117
    3.66 ERA
    117 ERA+
    1.278 WHIP
    2488 K
    8 15+ win seasons
    4 200+ K seasons
    3 140+ ERA+ seasons
    3 top 5 finishes for Cy Young
    5 All Star appearances
    Led the league in wins once (18 in 2018), Win% once (.792 in 2016), K% once (9.7 in 2010) and Shutouts once (2 in 2008)
    9-7, 2.51 ERA, 1.02 WHIP in 154 post-season innings
    4-1, 1.77 ERA, 0.93 WHIP in 35 World Series innings
    1x NLCS MVP

    According to B-R.com, the most similar pitchers to him are: Gooden, Cone, Hudson, Verlander & Halladay, of which only Halladay is currently a HOFer (although most of that group may eventually be inducted).

    What do you think? HOF or no?

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    I voted no only because, "Oh, HELL NO" was not an option.
    I'm just here for the baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chancellor View Post
    I voted no only because, "Oh, HELL NO" was not an option.
    me too

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    My gut reaction was the same as chance and Ken. Looking at the numbers, he has a better case than I realized, but I think still falls short on that rubric.
    "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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    He had a nine-year stretch from 2008-2016 where he was borderline Hall of Fame-ish: 3.34 ERA, 127 ERA+, 1.21 WHIP, average season 207 innings, 186 hits, 63 walks, 195 K. But he followed that up with five seasons of 4.25 ERA and 1.40 WHIP while averaging 147 innings pitched.

    If he had had a more outstanding peak or maintained that same quality longer, he might be more of a discussion.
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    Yeah, I said no way initially and was kind of surprised it was a poll question so took a look at the numbers. And still, no. The great postseason resume is not enough to enhance the overall body of work.

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    I have a hard time not thinking of this every time when I think of Lester. FF to 27 seconds in.


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    Cole Hamels is an example of a pitcher who had a very similar nine-year peak to Lester: 3.26 ERA, 124 ERA+, averaged 209 innings a year. He had a decent four years after that, better than Lester for sure. He doesn't have the same postseason resume as Lester does. And Hamels feels like a borderline but not quite Hall of Famer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauly View Post
    I have a hard time not thinking of this every time when I think of Lester. FF to 27 seconds in.

    What a throw from Soler.
    "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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    BTW, here's Hall of Famer Jack Morris:
    254-186
    3.90 ERA
    108 ERA+
    1.296 WHIP
    2478 K
    5 Top 5 finishes for Cy Young
    12 15+ win seasons

    never led the league in ERA or WHIP
    1x K leader (1983)
    2x Wins leader (1981, 1992)

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