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  • #16
    This is great stuff, thanks Jason!
    I'm just here for the baseball.

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    • #17
      I've been playing with XLOOKUP in Office 365 and its greatly accelerated my ability to put these tables into action.

      I was able to download 2021 ADP from FantasyPros: https://www.fantasypros.com/mlb/adp/overall.php and then pull the ADP report from NFBC. Put each one on its own tab, and then do the formula to generate the desired column on a single page.

      I just sent in my annual Value from Scrap Heap piece at Rotowire and used the overall report to generate some potential targets that have seen their market value severely decline since this time last year.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by onejayhawk View Post
        I see that some have moved up.

        Varsho makes sense. He was decent but only had 300 PA.
        Rodrigues is interesting. In his case a strong 2nd half seems the reasonable explanation.
        Vaughn is a name I have not considered in some time and now I will keep an eye on him. If Steamer projections play out, he's worth more than his current ADP.
        Rodriguez getting out of Fenway & the ALE and into the AL Central is a big plus. Vaughn's current market value is a tremendous discount given where he was last winter. That isn't going to last long as we get closer to peak draft season.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Moonlight J View Post
          I've been playing with XLOOKUP in Office 365 and its greatly accelerated my ability to put these tables into action.

          I was able to download 2021 ADP from FantasyPros: https://www.fantasypros.com/mlb/adp/overall.php and then pull the ADP report from NFBC. Put each one on its own tab, and then do the formula to generate the desired column on a single page.

          I just sent in my annual Value from Scrap Heap piece at Rotowire and used the overall report to generate some potential targets that have seen their market value severely decline since this time last year.
          xlookup is so much nicer than vlookup!
          I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Moonlight J View Post
            Rodriguez getting out of Fenway & the ALE and into the AL Central is a big plus. Vaughn's current market value is a tremendous discount given where he was last winter. That isn't going to last long as we get closer to peak draft season.
            I assumed as much but my draft starts the first week of February, so ... Still, it's going to be interesting watching these early rankings move as we get closer to show time.

            Apropos of nothing, I always liked that the American League East is an alcoholic beverage.
            Here's to you Bhob. Still remembering you with the Red Sox logo as an icon.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Moonlight J View Post
              Rodriguez getting out of Fenway & the ALE and into the AL Central is a big plus. Vaughn's current market value is a tremendous discount given where he was last winter. That isn't going to last long as we get closer to peak draft season.
              I'd love to get Vaughn in an auction since he'll probably come well below value. But in a redraft, I'm not so sure. It was nice to see his contact rate improve and K rate go down in the second half, but so did the power.
              I'm just here for the baseball.

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              • #22
                top 15 pitchers by ADP movement in NFBC Draft Champions leagues to date:

                PITCHER ADP CHANGE 2022 ADP 2021 ADP 2022 MIN PICK 2022 MAX PICK
                Ranger Suarez 592 158 750 97 196
                Justin Verlander 579 113 692 21 206
                Shane Baz 575 126 701 104 150
                Alek Manoah 560 84 644 56 105
                Camilo Doval 552 143 696 90 288
                Joe Barlow 532 199 731 133 290
                Shane McClanahan 498 103 601 82 122
                Logan Webb 486 54 541 37 99
                Joe Ryan 480 190 670 151 241
                Dylan Floro 479 208 686 159 314
                Aaron Ashby 473 256 729 168 326
                Bailey Ober 451 271 723 202 395
                Ken Giles 451 235 685 163 305
                Huascar Ynoa 449 238 687 155 300
                David Bednar 443 181 624 127 305

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Moonlight J View Post
                  top 15 pitchers by ADP movement in NFBC Draft Champions leagues to date:

                  PITCHER ADP CHANGE 2022 ADP 2021 ADP 2022 MIN PICK 2022 MAX PICK
                  Ranger Suarez 592 158 750 97 196
                  Justin Verlander 579 113 692 21 206
                  Shane Baz 575 126 701 104 150
                  Alek Manoah 560 84 644 56 105
                  Camilo Doval 552 143 696 90 288
                  Joe Barlow 532 199 731 133 290
                  Shane McClanahan 498 103 601 82 122
                  Logan Webb 486 54 541 37 99
                  Joe Ryan 480 190 670 151 241
                  Dylan Floro 479 208 686 159 314
                  Aaron Ashby 473 256 729 168 326
                  Bailey Ober 451 271 723 202 395
                  Ken Giles 451 235 685 163 305
                  Huascar Ynoa 449 238 687 155 300
                  David Bednar 443 181 624 127 305
                  I currently have Verlander, Webb, and Ynoa as keepers in my only leagues. Kind of excited about that.

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                  • #24
                    I posted that table to show a number of guys that were discovered very late in draft and holds that are now becoming key parts of rotations and bullpens. Verlander and Giles are the only guys on that list that made a jump to to recovery from injuries, and I still want no part of Giles myself given he's only 16 months from TJ and his recovery has been stunted by this lockout.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Moonlight J View Post
                      I posted that table to show a number of guys that were discovered very late in draft and holds that are now becoming key parts of rotations and bullpens. Verlander and Giles are the only guys on that list that made a jump to to recovery from injuries, and I still want no part of Giles myself given he's only 16 months from TJ and his recovery has been stunted by this lockout.
                      If you could have 3 guys off that list, who would yours be?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Gregg View Post
                        If you could have 3 guys off that list, who would yours be?
                        Joe Ryan (drafted him in so many places last winter)
                        Huascar Ynoa
                        Aaron Ashby

                        They're not the best of the 3 talent wise, but I like them the best at their current market price

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                        • #27
                          These are the P that fall from #250 to #350. I did not remove the RP since a lot of these guys will qualify for both.

                          Which do you like as strict upside plays?

                          252.62 Jon Gray TEX
                          254.04 Steven Matz STL
                          254.38 Aaron Ashby MLW
                          255.69 Andrew Kittredge TB
                          256.19 Bailey Ober MIN
                          265.81 Drew Rasmussen TB
                          266.31 German Marquez COL
                          267.12 Aaron Civale CLE
                          269.58 Cal Quantrill CLE
                          279.96 Jake McGee SF
                          280.19 Kyle Hendricks CHC
                          282.38 Casey Mize DET
                          283.00 Josiah Gray WAS
                          283.42 Rowan Wick CHC
                          290.65 Andrew Heaney LAD
                          291.69 Tylor Megill NYM
                          297.31 Jesus Luzardo MIA
                          301.27 Luis Patino TB
                          301.65 Devin Williams MLW
                          304.77 Paul Sewald SEA
                          309.58 Jameson Taillon NYY
                          310.00 Michael Fulmer DET
                          310.04 Carlos Carrasco NYM
                          312.35 Ian Kennedy PHI
                          314.04 Marco Gonzales SEA
                          314.35 Tony Gonsolin LAD
                          316.23 Eric Lauer MLW
                          320.19 Cristian Javier HOU
                          324.50 Trevor Bauer LAD
                          328.50 Zach Plesac CLE
                          329.42 Elieser Hernandez MIA
                          339.62 Tanner Rainey WAS
                          340.12 James Kaprielian OAK
                          340.19 Stephen Strasburg WAS
                          341.62 Adbert Alzolay CHC
                          345.65 Yusei Kikuchi SEA
                          346.85 Sixto Sanchez MIA
                          348.73 Alex Reyes STL
                          Ad Astra per Aspera

                          Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

                          GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

                          Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

                          I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by TranaGreg View Post
                            I don't understand why he (Ohtani) can't close games when he's getting his work in in-between starts.
                            Yeah…between pitching as an upper level SP and hitting at an elite level, that guy’s just not doing enough to help his team. What a slacker.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by onejayhawk View Post
                              These are the P that fall from #250 to #350. I did not remove the RP since a lot of these guys will qualify for both.

                              Which do you like as strict upside plays?
                              The question should be who don't we like from this list. This is a tier that I'm overbuying in.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by whalewang View Post
                                The question should be who don't we like from this list. This is a tier that I'm overbuying in.
                                Bauer

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