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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    Back to Rodon. I am kind of hoping the Cubs take a hard look at him. What would two years at $10m look like?
    Feels extremely light both on years and $. I would bet if you doubled your years and your AAV you'd be closer. 4/$80m?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madducks View Post
    The Astros will pay Verlander $25 million in 2022. They must think that he is still an elite pitcher. Maybe he still is.
    I don't think he will produce elite stats but I do think he will be a productive pitcher. As far as fantasy goes you can't do better as far as salary goes for $1 so it a very worthwhile gamble. Also I believe that he will be bid on in most auctions $20-$25 because of his name and the team he plays on. Also it pays to draft Astros pitchers. Got Valdez, Urquidy and Garcia last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madducks View Post
    The Astros will pay Verlander $25 million in 2022. They must think that he is still an elite pitcher. Maybe he still is.
    There is a second year player option as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    There is a second year player option as well.
    That's what really surprised me. I can see a 1-year deal, even at $25 MM, for Verlander. But to be on the hook for another $25 MM? Wow.
    I'm just here for the baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chancellor View Post
    That's what really surprised me. I can see a 1-year deal, even at $25 MM, for Verlander. But to be on the hook for another $25 MM? Wow.
    Yeah, it makes me reevaluate him. I regret tossing him in as a throw in late in the season to get Morton. He is being paid like a near ace. Big investment like that shows confidence from a team that is generally cautious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sour Masher View Post
    Yeah, it makes me reevaluate him. I regret tossing him in as a throw in late in the season to get Morton. He is being paid like a near ace. Big investment like that shows confidence from a team that is generally cautious.
    Real baseball is different than fantasy. First off the MLB needs dudes who can throw innings so even if he's got a mid 4s ERA he'll still be a very useful MLB pitcher. Secondly, they have much larger rosters so even if he does implode or get reinjured they have replacements. The Astros also only signed him to a 1 year deal so there's not a ton of risk on their side. Don't forget they also don't need to worry about cutting him if he's having a terrible first half like you would as fantasy manager. They can just let him pitch through it or manipulate his innings. There's also the intangable qualities he can bring a to real baseball team that we can't measure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmallz View Post
    Real baseball is different than fantasy. First off the MLB needs dudes who can throw innings so even if he's got a mid 4s ERA he'll still be a very useful MLB pitcher. Secondly, they have much larger rosters so even if he does implode or get reinjured they have replacements. The Astros also only signed him to a 1 year deal so there's not a ton of risk on their side. Don't forget they also don't need to worry about cutting him if he's having a terrible first half like you would as fantasy manager. They can just let him pitch through it or manipulate his innings. There's also the intangable qualities he can bring a to real baseball team that we can't measure.
    You make some good points. I would consider these as well.

    There is a second year player option (not mutual) So the risk is $50M.

    Any one that plays in a league with a reserve roster and/or FAAB will be able to fill in the Verlander slot with a good MR if needed.

    I have to think that most keeper leagues have Verlander at a cheap cost relative to their leagues value. He should be entering into his second or B contract at that cheap price. In my case he is a $1B. He not only is a no brainer keeper for me, he is an exciting one.

    I might not be willing to pay what he would go for if he was back in the auction, I doubt he will be back in most auction/keeper formats.

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    Yeah, $50 million over 2 years = whole helluva lot of risk.
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