2K21 NL Only Keepers

[Sharky]

D’Arnaud is a likely keep at 8. Hicks - no way! That’s crazy.

[BuckyBuckner]

Well, and plus I'm an idiot and didn't even notice that you have holds as a category. Damnit.


Edit: Strike what I said about Williams for sure. Have to think on the other guys. Seems like your league really rewards power hitters as well.

Edit 2: Your MRs are still quite pricey, which makes the call pretty tough. Williams is a keep. Hicks.....eh, coming off of major injury? Ditto Kela. I'd be tempted to just keep Williams and that's it. Depends on your tolerance for risk, I suppose. Relievers are a pretty fungible bunch year-to-year.

I tend to agree that Williams is the only one to keep. Though I not in eluding Peralta in the MR group. He might not be in the rotation right now but I think of him as a starter.

[ThatRogue]

Here are the players I'd feel best about keeping (in bold):

Travis d'Arnaud $8A
Carson Kelly $3B
Alec Bohm $5M -A
Keston Hiura $10B
Mauricio Dubon $3A
Gregory Polanco $18B
Jaylin Davis $1A
Joc Pederson $5C20
Lane Thomas $1A
Sam Hilliard $14A

Alex Wood $8A
Anthony DeSclanfani $1B
Clayton Kershaw $25B
Devin Williams $10F
Elieser Hernandez $10F
Freddy Peralta $8A
Gensis Cabrera $1A
Jordan Hicks $15A
Keone Kela $10B
Sean Doolittle $10F


Prospects:
Daulton Varsho $10M
Jazz Chisholm $10M
Ke'Bryan Hayes $5M
MacKenzie Gore $5M
Brailyn Marquez $5M

[whalewang]

Here are the players I'd feel best about keeping (in bold):

Travis d'Arnaud $8A
Carson Kelly $3B
Alec Bohm $5M -A
Keston Hiura $10B
Mauricio Dubon $3A
Gregory Polanco $18B
Jaylin Davis $1A
Joc Pederson $5C20
Lane Thomas $1A
Sam Hilliard $14A

Alex Wood $8A
Anthony DeSclanfani $1B
Clayton Kershaw $25B
Devin Williams $10F
Elieser Hernandez $10F
Freddy Peralta $8A
Gensis Cabrera $1A
Jordan Hicks $15A
Keone Kela $10B
Sean Doolittle $10F


Prospects:
Daulton Varsho $10M
Jazz Chisholm $10M
Ke'Bryan Hayes $5M
MacKenzie Gore $5M
Brailyn Marquez $5M

Agree with this. I'd consider Peralta too. Decent gamble for this year and the future at that price.

But no one is loving DeSclafani @ $1 ?! The Giants are known for creating diamonds from coal with their pitching.

[BuckyBuckner]

I offered Kelly to another team for Pollock $11A and they asked for d'Arnaud instead. Wondering what you folks think. I think they will put up similar numbers with d'Arnaud having a better average.

[joncarlos]

Can you get a "mediocre" C for just $5 in a 2C/12 team NL only league? Replacement level is the 24th catcher in the NL which is pretty low.

I think so - maybe not one with a sheen of upside like Kelly, but is Jacob Stallings really going a lot higher than 5? Or Tucker Barnhart?

[Pauly]

I offered Kelly to another team for Pollock $11A and they asked for d'Arnaud instead. Wondering what you folks think. I think they will put up similar numbers with d'Arnaud having a better average.

Is 12 HR similar to 18? Thats the Steamer projection. D'Arnaud is hitting in the middle of one of the best lineups in baseball and is coming off a season where he hit .321. Sure that will regress, but Kelly is vastly inferior in every conceivable way except injury concern.

[Teenwolf]

I tend to agree that Williams is the only one to keep. Though I not in eluding Peralta in the MR group. He might not be in the rotation right now but I think of him as a starter.

Although Peralta might get a shot at starting, I would be leery about him in your format. Lots of 5 IP starts where you don't get the full point for the QS. I would target guys with higher IP/GS in your format in general.

[BuckyBuckner]

Is 12 HR similar to 18? Thats the Steamer projection. D'Arnaud is hitting in the middle of one of the best lineups in baseball and is coming off a season where he hit .321. Sure that will regress, but Kelly is vastly inferior in every conceivable way except injury concern.

I'm going off Baseball HQ projections in RotoLab. I like d'Arnaud better, which is why I offered Kelly. Was just wondering if the upgrade is still worth Pollock. I'm not sure it is.

[Bene Futuis]

I offered Kelly to another team for Pollock $11A and they asked for d'Arnaud instead. Wondering what you folks think. I think they will put up similar numbers with d'Arnaud having a better average.

Pollock is underrated and d'Arnaud is overrated. You might be able to squeeze a little more out in return, imo. I wouldn't be shocked if Kelly outperforms d'Arnaud this year, honestly.

[ThatRogue]

Agree with this. I'd consider Peralta too. Decent gamble for this year and the future at that price.

But no one is loving DeSclafani @ $1 ?! The Giants are known for creating diamonds from coal with their pitching.

I like him as a decent flyer...but I think you can get him for $1 - $3 in the end game.

[scottw]

Agree with this. I'd consider Peralta too. Decent gamble for this year and the future at that price.

But no one is loving DeSclafani @ $1 ?! The Giants are known for creating diamonds from coal with their pitching.

But Kapler is now managing SF, and he is a guy who absolutely screws up his pitchers. They have no idea when or how they will be used and I doubt Kapler does either.

[Ken]

But Kapler is now managing SF, and he is a guy who absolutely screws up his pitchers. They have no idea when or how they will be used and I doubt Kapler does either.

Bullpens I'll give you, but what SPs has he screwed up? Seems like he's had at least some limited success with them. Nola, Gausman, Smyly

[scottw]

I can't tell you how many times Kapler pulled starters--esp. Nola--when they were cruising through the lineup, sometimes with a shutout, or a bunch of SO's. His explanation was always hilarious [but not to some very PO'ed starters], saying the metrics against a particular batter said he should make the move, or a blanket "3rd time through the lineup". Notice that not one starter actually improved during his stint in Philly--all either regressed or barely stayed the same [Nola]. I'll give him that his pitching coach was a disaster, but who hired and retained him?

[Ken]

I can't tell you how many times Kapler pulled starters--esp. Nola--when they were cruising through the lineup, sometimes with a shutout, or a bunch of SO's. His explanation was always hilarious [but not to some very PO'ed starters], saying the metrics against a particular batter said he should make the move, or a blanket "3rd time through the lineup". Notice that not one starter actually improved during his stint in Philly--all either regressed or barely stayed the same [Nola]. I'll give him that his pitching coach was a disaster, but who hired and retained him?

He has managed 3 seasons (really 2 and a half).

In those seasons, Nola had his best year of his career (2018)
Gausman had his best "year" of his career (2020)
Smyly had his best "year" of his career (2020).
Cahill had his best "year" since 2016 (2020)
Eflin had 2 decent years under Kapler after having been terrible previously.
Velasquez had 2 years in 2018/2019 that were better than 2017
Although terrible, Pivetta was better in 2018/2019 than before/after Kapler

You are citing that pitchers regressed under Kapler, but that's only because several of them had good years his first year (and even in his 2nd they were still better than 2017).

I'm not seeing it, Kapler has been fine for starters.