2K21 NL Only Keepers

[BuckyBuckner]

Keepers are due on Friday. It's a 12 team 6x6 NL only league; AVG, OPS, R, HR, RBI, SB x QS+1/2W, ERA, WHIP, K, SV, HD. We can keep 12. $265 to spend on 14 hitters and 10 pitchers. This year due to the weirdness of last year we decided to roll over all kept players contracts. So all B contracts stay be and anyone would was originally a dead C20 contract can be kept this year. C21 can be pushed to C22, etc, though I don't have any of those. F players can be kept for one year. I'm going to skip most of my roster

Travis d'Arnaud $8A
Carson Kelly $3B
Alec Bohm $5M (lost rookie eligibility so needs to be one of my 12 keepers and goes into the year with an A contract
Keston Hiura $10B
Mauricio Dubon $3A
Gregory Polanco $18B
Jaylin Davis $1A
Joc Pederson $5C20 (can be kept this year)
Lane Thomas $1A
Sam Hilliard $14A

Alex Wood $8A
Anthony DeSclanfani $1B
Clayton Kershaw $25B
Devin Williams $10F
Elieser Hernandez $10F
Freddy Peralta $8A
Gensis Cabrera $1A
Jordan Hicks $15A
Keone Kela $10B
Sean Doolittle $10F

By my count I think there are 13 players here that are legitimate keepers.

My prospects are:

Daulton Varsho $10M
Jazz Chisholm $10M
Ke'Bryan Hayes $5M
MacKenzie Gore $5M
Brailyn Marquez $5M

I can draft a placeholder for Hayes and maybe Varsho (if he makes the team, who qualifies at C) at the draft and activate them once the season starts. We draft off the the 40 man roster so I can pick someone that won't make the team and reserve them. A nice way to get an extra potential keeper.

So who are the 12 you got?

[harmon]

Travis d'Arnaud $8A - Yes
Carson Kelly $3B - Yes
Alec Bohm $5M (lost rookie eligibility so needs to be one of my 12 keepers and goes into the year with an A contract - Yes
Keston Hiura $10B - Yes
Mauricio Dubon $3A - Yes
Gregory Polanco $18B
Jaylin Davis $1A
Joc Pederson $5C20 (can be kept this year) - Yes
Lane Thomas $1A
Sam Hilliard $14A - Like him, but not at this salary

Alex Wood $8A - Always Injured
Anthony DeSclanfani $1B - Meh
Clayton Kershaw $25B - Yes
Devin Williams $10F - Yes
Elieser Hernandez $10F - Like him, but this is full price
Freddy Peralta $8A - Upside, but cant be counted upon
Gensis Cabrera $1A
Jordan Hicks $15A Yes, if he makes it through ST alive
Keone Kela $10B - Losing value as time goes on
Sean Doolittle $10F


9 keepers for me

[scottw]

Keepers are due on Friday. It's a 12 team 6x6 NL only league; AVG, OPS, R, HR, RBI, SB x QS+1/2W, ERA, WHIP, K, SV, HD. We can keep 12. This year due to the weirdness of last year we decided to roll over all kept players contracts. So all B contracts stay be and anyone would was originally a dead C20 contract can be kept this year. C21 can be pushed to C22, etc, though I don't have any of those. F players can be kept for one year. I'm going to skip most of my roster

Travis d'Arnaud $8A
Carson Kelly $3B************personally, I'd keep Kelly over d'Arnaud--not a believer
Alec Bohm $5M ************************
Keston Hiura $10B******************probably
Mauricio Dubon $3A
Gregory Polanco $18B -another injury
Jaylin Davis $1A
Joc Pederson $5C20 (can be kept this year)*****************
Lane Thomas $1A
Sam Hilliard $14A*******************************

Alex Wood $8A--NO--injured once again
Anthony DeSclanfani $1B
Clayton Kershaw $25B**********************if he won't go cheaper?
Devin Williams $10F****************************
Elieser Hernandez $10F
Freddy Peralta $8A
Gensis Cabrera $1A
Jordan Hicks $15A*********************on talent alone, even if a bit risky
Keone Kela $10B***********************Both should be in the hunt for saves before too long
Sean Doolittle $10F********************"""""""""

By my count I think there are 13 players here that are legitimate keepers.

My prospects are:

Daulton Varsho $10M
Jazz Chisholm $10M
Ke'Bryan Hayes $5M
MacKenzie Gore $5M
Brailyn Marquez $5M

I can draft a placeholder for Hayes and maybe Varsho (if he makes the team, who qualifies at C) at the draft and activate them once the season starts. We draft off the the 40 man roster so I can pick someone that won't make the team and reserve them. A nice way to get an extra potential keeper.

So who are the 12 you got?

My take!

[joncarlos]

Bohm, Hiura, Dubon, Joc, Kershaw, Devin Williams, Jordan Hicks, and Freddy Peralta are easy keeps for me... that makes 8. I'd probably add TDA and Hilliard, since you're light on speed and I think OPS helps him. Lots of questionable guys and guys with a lot of helium. I wouldn't complain about Elieser over Hilliard or keeping both catchers over Hilliard. At least if you keep Kelly you probably have the AZ catchers locked up - feel the championship - but I'd rather pay $14 for Hilliard and $5 for some other mediocre C, than keep Kelly and have to chase Hilliard or Polanco to $25.

[BuckyBuckner]

Interesting about Hicks. General consensus with league mates is he's overpriced. I like Kela too but it's a crowded competition for saves in San Diego.

I should note that inflation is about 38% (48% on the hitting side and 22% for pitching). This is based on my keeper projections of all the teams.

[Ken]

I'd rather pay $14 for Hilliard and $5 for some other mediocre C, than keep Kelly and have to chase Hilliard or Polanco to $25.

Can you get a "mediocre" C for just $5 in a 2C/12 team NL only league? Replacement level is the 24th catcher in the NL which is pretty low.

[Pauly]

The lack of love for d'Arnaud in this thread is disconcerting.

[BuckyBuckner]

Bohm, Hiura, Dubon, Joc, Kershaw, Devin Williams, Jordan Hicks, and Freddy Peralta are easy keeps for me... that makes 8. I'd probably add TDA and Hilliard, since you're light on speed and I think OPS helps him. Lots of questionable guys and guys with a lot of helium. I wouldn't complain about Elieser over Hilliard or keeping both catchers over Hilliard. At least if you keep Kelly you probably have the AZ catchers locked up - feel the championship - but I'd rather pay $14 for Hilliard and $5 for some other mediocre C, than keep Kelly and have to chase Hilliard or Polanco to $25.

Right now my plan is to keep both catchers but I've been shopping Kelly a little. There isn't going to be a lot of talent available in the draft and if Hilliard were in the draft I think he'd push $20. I am a fan of Elieser and thinking about keeping him, very nice strikeout potential.

[BuckyBuckner]

The lack of love for d'Arnaud in this thread is disconcerting.

I find it odd too.

[Ken]

The lack of love for d'Arnaud in this thread is disconcerting.

He's an easy keep at $8 in 12 team NL only. Catchers who simply get ABs in 2C only leagues are valuable. Catchers who give you decent stats even more so.

[Bene Futuis]

I'd keep both catchers easily. Is Hilliard slated to start? My kneejerk reaction is not to keep him, even though I like him a good bit. I don't think I'd keep any of the middle relievers, even the ones who may get into the closer's role, Hicks included.

[BuckyBuckner]

I'd keep both catchers easily. Is Hilliard slated to start? My kneejerk reaction is not to keep him, even though I like him a good bit. I don't think I'd keep any of the middle relievers, even the ones who may get into the closer's role, Hicks included.

Hilliard is slated to be on the good side of a platoon with Hampson to start. If he hits, he'll play more.

We have holds as a category. You wouldn't keep Devin Williams?

[Bene Futuis]

Hilliard is slated to be on the good side of a platoon with Hampson to start. If he hits, he'll play more.

We have holds as a category. You wouldn't keep Devin Williams?

I would not. Shoulder injury plus setup man plus double digit price. I'd try to trade him if I could. Seems like I'm the odd man out on this one, though, so can't blame you if you want to keep him. MRs just aren't worth $10, even ones with devastating sliders.

[Bene Futuis]

Well, and plus I'm an idiot and didn't even notice that you have holds as a category. Damnit.


Edit: Strike what I said about Williams for sure. Have to think on the other guys. Seems like your league really rewards power hitters as well.

Edit 2: Your MRs are still quite pricey, which makes the call pretty tough. Williams is a keep. Hicks.....eh, coming off of major injury? Ditto Kela. I'd be tempted to just keep Williams and that's it. Depends on your tolerance for risk, I suppose. Relievers are a pretty fungible bunch year-to-year.

[scottw]

He's an easy keep at $8 in 12 team NL only. Catchers who simply get ABs in 2C only leagues are valuable. Catchers who give you decent stats even more so.

My concern with dArnaud is that he has had zero success as a hitter prior to that insane season we just saw. Was 2020 success a breakthrough or an anomaly?
As to AB's for Catchers: I often try to LIMIT AB's from mediocre C's just to keep the counting stats damage to a minimum. YMMV