2K21 Closer thread

[Gregg]

All things Closer related are welcome.

I play in two 5x5 only leagues (1 AL and 1 NL). I do not believe in punting saves as I have not seen this very effective in winning the championships. How about you?

If you do buy or keep a closer what is the max you are comfortable with?

[TranaGreg]

Good idea in starting this ...

I try to keep to cheap keepers in closers, it's been a while since I've spent significantly in the auction on them - pretty much only when I've had a great set of keepers & I need one reliable guy to anchor the saves cat.

I have two very cheap speculative guys in Romano (Tor) and Staumont (KCR) ... KC signed Holland but he's now 35 and less than totally reliable, so I think I'll be keeping Staumont. and Tor is linked to a bunch of FAs, but with Hendricks now in Chi I'm hoping he remains the guy.

[Gregg]

Liam Hendriks was kept at $22 in our AL only 5x5 12 team $260 budget.

We have a winter roster cutdown day (to 19 roster spots including prospects) and then a winter roster draft of those who were cut. Trading then opens up until our final roster cutdowns (10-14 keeps depending on where we finished). This took place on Sunday. I tried to trade for Hendriks but fell short (lose them if traded out of the league).

The current owner is a White Sox fan so I am guessing he is doing the dance of joy for several reasons.

[joncarlos]

I really don't mind spending on the elite ones, if I don't have cheap keepers. I really dislike spending on the middle tier options who might burn you. If I'm spending in the middle I'd rather spend on high talent and questionable role, rather than solid role and questionable talent. That's a change to previous years where I was happy to spend on the unchallenged, mediocre guy.

[joncarlos]

So my current ADP list looks something like this (I think it was all 50-round drafts since mid-December, 15-team NFBC):

Hader
Hendriks
---
Edwin Diaz
Chapman
R Iglesias
Karinchak
----
Pressly
Taylor Rogers
Kenley
Hand (free agent)
Nick Anderson
Rosenthal (free agent)
Colome (free agent)
Devin Williams
Rafael Montero
---
Yates (free agent)
Kimbrel
Matt Barnes
Rich Rodriguez
Jordan Romano
---
Will Smith
Pomeranz
Stefan Chrichton
Jordan Hicks
Melancon (free agent)
Greg Holland
-----
Gallegos
Neris
Tanner Rainey
-----
Diego Castillo
Daniel Bard
----
Aaron Bummer
Amir Garrett
Lucas Sims



I might have missed some guys. I'm not really excited about most of these options.
EDIT- added Edwin Diaz, Devin Williams and Rafael Montero, and Crichton and a few other lower tier guys

[chancellor]

I'd pay into the low to mid 20s for a closer with elite skills on a contending team. I'd consider around 20 for a closer who's cheap and has elite skills on a non-contender.

[DMT]

I'd pay into the low to mid 20s for a closer with elite skills on a contending team. I'd consider around 20 for a closer who's cheap and has elite skills on a non-contender.

In my league you'd have 9 closers at those prices.

[Moonlight J]

I'd pay into the low to mid 20s for a closer with elite skills on a contending team. I'd consider around 20 for a closer who's cheap and has elite skills on a non-contender.

in one of my home leagues, there are 4 owners who either keep or draft closers at >$20 prices. They've spent as much as $36 in a draft on a closer. Blows my mind.

[chancellor]

In my league you'd have 9 closers at those prices.

In a mixed league, I wouldn't go that high for sure - good catch. In my 11-team AL only league, most don't, either, but the top 1-3 do.

[chancellor]

in one of my home leagues, there are 4 owners who either keep or draft closers at >$20 prices. They've spent as much as $36 in a draft on a closer. Blows my mind.

$36?!? Wow. I help a friend with his NL only league, and Hader went for $26. I've bought Chapman in the past for $22 in my 11-team AL only. Iglesias is the guy who intrigues me in my AL-only this year. I may well push to low-20s on him.

[TranaGreg]

the only closer I ever saw go mid-upper 30's was Mo in his prime ... now it seems even the elite guys are pretty volatile

[harmon]

So my current ADP list looks something like this (I think it was all 50-round drafts since mid-December, 15-team NFBC):

Hader
Hendriks
---
Chapman
R Iglesias
Karinchak
----
Pressly
Taylor Rogers
Kenley
Hand (free agent)
Nick Anderson
Rosenthal (free agent)
Colome (free agent)
---
Yates (free agent)
Kimbrel
Matt Barnes
Rich Rodriguez
Jordan Romano
---
Will Smith
Pomeranz
Jordan Hicks
Melancon (free agent)
Greg Holland
-----
Gallegos
Neris
Tanner Rainey

I might have missed some guys. I'm not really excited about most of these options.

This has to be one of the thinnest closer lists ever. So many question marks even with some of the top guys.

I always wonder with Hader if this is the year they redeploy him. And this year especially with Williams lurking.

Chapman is 32 and coming off a 3 save season in 2020. Karinchak had 1 save and is unproven in the closer role.

Diaz on a hopeful Mets team should be added to the 2nd tier(?)

I also like Yimi Garcia of the Marlins and believe he will be the guy in 2021.

[joncarlos]

This has to be one of the thinnest closer lists ever. So many question marks even with some of the top guys.

I always wonder with Hader if this is the year they redeploy him. And this year especially with Williams lurking.

Chapman is 32 and coming off a 3 save season in 2020. Karinchak had 1 save and is unproven in the closer role.

Diaz on a hopeful Mets team should be added to the 2nd tier(?)

I also like Yimi Garcia of the Marlins and believe he will be the guy in 2021.

Yeah, I added Diaz and a couple others that I had missed. Hader really scares me. Handcuffing him to Williams is a crazy high price (like two top 12 round picks for one closer?).

[Moonlight J]

Chapman was high water guy at $36

Giles went $30 2 years ago

[Ken]

Chapman was high water guy at $36

Giles went $30 2 years ago

We had a Giles $30 a couple years back too in 15 mixed, what a terrible investment.