2021 Keep Forever Help

[virgonomic]

Shallow 14 team H2H (1 C 3 OF)

Keep 2-4 (Rounds 1-4): Realmuto Voit Merrifield JRam Yellich Lamet Darvish
Keep up to 4 (rounds 19-22, backfilled): Tatis Franco Rutchman Strasburg

In what I viewed as a keeper swap, I traded Baez and got Realmuto/Voit. However, I'm not sure who the no-brainers are now. Yellich and JRam for sure; I assumed Merrifield and Realmuto but Voit and Darvish make it muddy.

I think the late rounders are all no-brainers, even Stras.

Who should I keep and who goes on the trade block?

[madducks]

JRam
Yelich
Lamet
Darvish

Tatis
Franco
Rutschman
Strasburg

[Gregg]

Given this group of keepers, one catcher, shallow league I would probably not keep 3 pitchers. Plus all of them have some type of issue.

I agree that the 4 later rounds are no brainer keepers. I like the gamble of Stras there. It would allow me to trade one of Darvish or Lamet. I would add Merrifield in place of one of those. I would be tryig to package Darvish and Realmeto for a better keeper.

This is an impressive group, so I might also try to see if I could package something with Rutschman to help this next season. I wouldn't lose sleep I stood pat on him either.

[virgonomic]

JRam Yelich Lamet Darvish

Tatis Franco Rutschman Strasburg

Wow, Lamet and Darvish? I think 1 SP is the max because this league tends to favour hitting keepers.

I will put them on the trade block but teams who don't keep 4 players get first pick from the FA pool so they will have a shot at getting the ones I throw back for free.

Given this group of keepers, one catcher, shallow league I would probably not keep 3 pitchers. Plus all of them have some type of issue.

I agree that the 4 later rounds are no brainer keepers. I like the gamble of Stras there. It would allow me to trade one of Darvish or Lamet. I would add Merrifield in place of one of those. I would be trying to package Darvish and Realmuto for a better keeper.

This is an impressive group, so I might also try to see if I could package something with Rutschman to help this next season. I wouldn't lose sleep I stood pat on him either.

Good point. I drafted Moncada and Giolito as rookies and ended up trading them before they did anything significant. Bellinger was an exception and Franco might be as well. However, it usually takes prospects 2-3 years to be contributors. I did have a team make offers for Rutchman last year so there is interest.

[chancellor]

I'd go with JRam/Yelich/Merrifield/Darvish for the first four. Much as I like Lamet, he just doesn't make the cut here, especially over Merrifield who I think maintains 2B eligibility.

And keep all of the last four, even Stras.

[virgonomic]

I'd go with JRam/Yelich/Merrifield/Darvish for the first four. Much as I like Lamet, he just doesn't make the cut here, especially over Merrifield who I think maintains 2B eligibility.

And keep all of the last four, even Stras.

Fair. If I throw Darvish back, he will be gone before my first pick. Probably not the case with all of the others.

[Sour Masher]

I'd go with JRam/Yelich/Merrifield/Darvish for the first four. Much as I like Lamet, he just doesn't make the cut here, especially over Merrifield who I think maintains 2B eligibility.

And keep all of the last four, even Stras.

Yeah, I agree with this. Anyway you cut it, you will be in good shape. You have studs. I especially envy the cheap Tatis.

[virgonomic]

Yeah, I agree with this. Anyway you cut it, you will be in good shape. You have studs. I especially envy the cheap Tatis.

Thanks. I usually try to pick a prospect with my 19th round pick to either trade or build for the future. I drafted Tatis in 2018 and sat on him for a year.

[virgonomic]

A new owner has Nola/Glasnow as top 4 keepers and KLewis/TTurner/Ryu as late rounders.

I think it's a perfect fit, with me sending Realmuto/Voit for Ryu and a draft pick upgrade.

I also offered Rutschman who I'd probably sub for either of the bats.

Coming in with Darvish/Ryu/Stras would let me focus on hitting for the first 3-4 rounds.

[Ken]

A new owner has Nola/Glasnow as top 4 keepers and KLewis/TTurner/Ryu as late rounders.

I think it's a perfect fit, with me sending Realmuto/Voit for Ryu and a draft pick upgrade.

wait, what are you going to do with Ryu? He wouldn't make your keeper list.

[chancellor]

wait, what are you going to do with Ryu? He wouldn't make your keeper list.

I suspect he'd replace Rutschmann on the lower four. So he's have JRam/Yelich/Merrifield/Darvish and Tatis/WFranco/Ryu/Stras.

[Sour Masher]

I suspect he'd replace Rutschmann on the lower four. So he's have JRam/Yelich/Merrifield/Darvish and Tatis/WFranco/Ryu/Stras.

That is my assumption too, and if so, I like it. Obviously, Adley is considered a special talent, but with the attrition rate at catcher, and it being a 1 catcher mixed league, sacrificing his considerable long term upside for the high now value of Ryu is worth it imo.

[Ken]

Man if I did that type of deal I'd be finding someone to take Adley before I made that trade - in this format Adley would have quite a bit of value, throwing it away seems wrong.

[Sour Masher]

Man if I did that type of deal I'd be finding someone to take Adley before I made that trade - in this format Adley would have quite a bit of value, throwing it away seems wrong.

You highlight his value in this format, but doesn't Adley have less value in a shallow 1 catcher league? I understand the round value, but that goes for Ryu too. Of course, I would try too, but given the limited number of keeper spots, it might be hard to get a good return for Adley in a 1 catcher mixed league, despite his supposed generational talent (if anyone can be the exception to the rule, it is him, but lots of folks have been burnt by catching prospects over the years).

[chancellor]

Man if I did that type of deal I'd be finding someone to take Adley before I made that trade - in this format Adley would have quite a bit of value, throwing it away seems wrong.

Valid point - for the incremental value of Ryu, he'll give up Ruschmann and put two good hitters onto an opposing team. Given his keepers, I'd still do it - I mean, even in a 14-team mixed league that keeper list is really, really good, and a top SP list of Darvish/Stras/Ryu gives him great top hitting and starting pitching for a great chance at a league win. But making one competitor stronger and giving up future value of Rutschmann would certainly make me think about it.