Talk me out of drinking the eovaldi kool-aid

[Sour Masher]

I am thinking of keeping him for $1 in a 14 teamer that plays like a 16 teamer (he is hitting 100 mph on the radar gun, looking sharp). I have an offer to upgrade that keeper spot with Bryan Reynolds at $5, a clear upgrade, but I have to give Nolan Gorman and my 2nd round prospect draft pick, which is high and should be a decent guy, like Corbin Carroll. We keep 15 and not many guys are looking to move a major leaguer for prospects, and the deadline is tomorrow, so it is probaly roll with Eovaldi or trade for Reynolds. My other 14 keepers are ridiculous--by far the best in the league. I am torn between making it even better or saving the few bullets I have left for in-season deals.

[joncarlos]

I have to think that Gorman and Corbin Carroll gets you better than Eovaldi in a June deal, no?

[onejayhawk]

Damn, JC.

Using logic is unfair. I was just going to say the Kool-Aid has been laced with Ex-Lax.

J

[Sour Masher]

I have to think that Gorman and Corbin Carroll gets you better than Eovaldi in a June deal, no?

Well, the question would be if I can get better than Reynolds. I think I can. I just wanted a read on Eovaldi vs Reynolds, and whether dealing the prospects was worth the difference.

[Ken]

I wouldn't roster Eovaldi in a 14 team mixed. Reynolds, I would.

(note, how does a 14 team league play like a 16?)

The 100 mph note doesn't move the needle for me. He was up over 98 last year and that didn't help him. There's a small chance he turns back into the Eovaldi of old but it's unlikely - I don't see it as a reasonable expectation.

[chancellor]

Well, the question would be if I can get better than Reynolds. I think I can. I just wanted a read on Eovaldi vs Reynolds, and whether dealing the prospects was worth the difference.

I really like those two potential prospects, so I’d not do the deal. But I wouldn’t keep Eovaldi either.

[Sour Masher]

Now can get Caleb Smith back or Sandy. Which Marlin pitcher you guys like better?

[Sour Masher]

I wouldn't roster Eovaldi in a 14 team mixed. Reynolds, I would.

(note, how does a 14 team league play like a 16?)

The 100 mph note doesn't move the needle for me. He was up over 98 last year and that didn't help him. There's a small chance he turns back into the Eovaldi of old but it's unlikely - I don't see it as a reasonable expectation.

Yeah, I was kidding myself. We roster 30 majors, 20 minors, with two more IL spots, so plays deeper.

[Ken]

Yeah, I was kidding myself. We roster 30 majors, 20 minors, with two more IL spots, so plays deeper.

In my opinion, for the purposes of keeper decisions the "depth" of a league is trying to pinpoint where your replacement level player is - so basically the number of teams x the number of players in the starting lineup. I don't think bench size should be considered. If bench is coming into play, that means the player should be less than a buck at auction.

There's *some* nuance to be considered for larger roster sizes, but I personally don't think it's worth changing a keeper decision. I believe Eovaldi belongs in the reserves in your league, so I would not keep him.

[Ken]

Now can get Caleb Smith back or Sandy. Which Marlin pitcher you guys like better?

Smith

[Gregg]

In my opinion, for the purposes of keeper decisions the "depth" of a league is trying to pinpoint where your replacement level player is - so basically the number of teams x the number of players in the starting lineup. I don't think bench size should be considered. If bench is coming into play, that means the player should be less than a buck at auction.

There's *some* nuance to be considered for larger roster sizes, but I personally don't think it's worth changing a keeper decision. I believe Eovaldi belongs in the reserves in your league, so I would not keep him.

Which means you wouldn't take him for a buck?

[Ken]

Which means you wouldn't take him for a buck?

It's all relative.

In a 14 team league there are 126 pitchers rostered. Several of those pitchers will be a buck, lets assume at least 1 per team. So you're looking at the ~110th pitcher range for your dollar pitcher. Brendan McKay or Steven Matz or Ross Stripling or Adrian Houser or Jose Quintana --- those type pitchers should be available to me in 14 team auction for around a buck. Maybe a pitcher slightly better than that fell is still out there too. So no, I'm not taking Eovaldi over those guys.

[Sour Masher]

The other factor is that it is h2h, no cap on innings, so lots of bench spots go to SPs, like a silly number.

[Ken]

The other factor is that it is h2h, no cap on innings, so lots of bench spots go to SPs, like a silly number.

How/why does that change your bidding on the starting lineup though?

[Sour Masher]

How/why does that change your bidding on the starting lineup though?

I feel like a meat eater at a vegetarian convention admitting this, but...it's a a h2h weekly points league. All about accumulating points, and even marginal SPs have an inflated value because of the deep benches and the value of 2 start pitchers.