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    Quote Originally Posted by rhd View Post
    WHO has agreed to conduct an inquiry into the global response to the CV-19 pandemic. The report is from CNN:

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/19/china...ntl/index.html

    This proposal, backed by global support from many nations, was passed w/o an objection. This despite China's previous heavy criticism of and threats to Australia for calling for this inquiry. The resolution did not mention China or any other country. Despite all this, I have no doubt that this was passed only because China agreed not to oppose it, evidently thinking they can spin everything its way and cover up or otherwise manage any incriminating evidence. We'll see what if anything comes of this. I'm not optimistic.
    I think you nailed it, rhd. China has made the incriminating evidence disappear and this will be a show investigation.
    The Australia/China relationship will be interesting to watch going forward to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nots View Post
    I think you nailed it, rhd. China has made the incriminating evidence disappear and this will be a show investigation.
    The Australia/China relationship will be interesting to watch going forward to be sure.
    So....a show boat to China?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve 2.0 View Post
    So....a show boat to China?
    Reminds me of my buddy who has a small, local snow shoveling side business in the winter. Basically, just does a couple of people's driveways with a friend like kids in high school do, even though he's 40. In any event, he printed up business cards and had a typo where he said "show shoveling" instead of "snow shoveling." He ended up having a lot of fun with it - claiming that the way he snow shovels is so good and entertaining that it really is a show. But, as per usual, I digress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve 2.0 View Post
    So....a show boat to China?
    +1 for that, Steve 2.0!

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    Quote Originally Posted by umjewman View Post
    Reminds me of my buddy who has a small, local snow shoveling side business in the winter. Basically, just does a couple of people's driveways with a friend like kids in high school do, even though he's 40. In any event, he printed up business cards and had a typo where he said "show shoveling" instead of "snow shoveling." He ended up having a lot of fun with it - claiming that the way he snow shovels is so good and entertaining that it really is a show. But, as per usual, I digress.
    Wait...so you are saying it should be snow boat to China?!

    Who knew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nots View Post
    I think you nailed it, rhd. China has made the incriminating evidence disappear and this will be a show investigation.
    The Australia/China relationship will be interesting to watch going forward to be sure.
    Thing is, and I'm not justifying what China or WHO has been doing, the US is starting down a similar road of misrepresentation of COVID numbers. Currently both Florida and Georgia are trying to obfuscate the numbers and Trump is starting to do the same. I'm not going to assume the Why, but what's happening is pretty clear--anything that makes to numbers look bad (or worse as They're already bad) is being downplayed, lied about or ignored. Forget the moral issue here--the real issue is the threat it becomes to everyone's wellbeing.

    I guess we're the shithole country now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
    Thing is, and I'm not justifying what China or WHO has been doing, the US is starting down a similar road of misrepresentation of COVID numbers. Currently both Florida and Georgia are trying to obfuscate the numbers and Trump is starting to do the same. I'm not going to assume the Why, but what's happening is pretty clear--anything that makes to numbers look bad (or worse as They're already bad) is being downplayed, lied about or ignored. Forget the moral issue here--the real issue is the threat it becomes to everyone's wellbeing.

    I guess we're the shithole country now.
    Yes, it is disturbing. Trump heaped praise on China early and often for their handling of COVID-19 before he decided to do a 180. But, of course, his 180 is really just another turn toward praising China--imitation is the highest form of flattery, after all. Just like China is pumping out propaganda to its people that this whole thing is the fault of the US, to deflect from their massive failings, Trump has gone from lauding their response to this to saying it is entirely their fault and he is perfect, trying to suppress valid data to fit his narrative. Scary stuff to see CCP tactics implemented here in the US by Chairman Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
    Thing is, and I'm not justifying what China or WHO has been doing, the US is starting down a similar road of misrepresentation of COVID numbers. Currently both Florida and Georgia are trying to obfuscate the numbers and Trump is starting to do the same. I'm not going to assume the Why, but what's happening is pretty clear--anything that makes to numbers look bad (or worse as They're already bad) is being downplayed, lied about or ignored. Forget the moral issue here--the real issue is the threat it becomes to everyone's wellbeing.

    I guess we're the shithole country now.
    I've been thinking exactly this. The US and other countries are obfuscating the true numbers, it's not just China. I've also been really close to starting a thread called "The US is the biggest shithole country", so I'm glad you saved my bacon pre-empting me!

    It's amazing that in Canada, we see starkly different covid numbers in different provinces. BC is the California equivalent, run by lefties at every level. They just had ZERO new cases among 5 million people for the first time yesterday. Meanwhile, my province Ontario, run by the former crack smoking Toronto mayor's brother had prematurely crippled the supports for senior homes, health care, etc, and you see we got hit harder, and still getting 300 new cases a day. Austerity costs lives. Socialism is the only thing getting us through. My $4k over 2 months was a godsend.

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    Iowa announces High School Baseball and Softball can start June 1st.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
    Thing is, and I'm not justifying what China or WHO has been doing, the US is starting down a similar road of misrepresentation of COVID numbers. Currently both Florida and Georgia are trying to obfuscate the numbers and Trump is starting to do the same. I'm not going to assume the Why, but what's happening is pretty clear--anything that makes to numbers look bad (or worse as They're already bad) is being downplayed, lied about or ignored. Forget the moral issue here--the real issue is the threat it becomes to everyone's wellbeing.

    I guess we're the shithole country now.
    The important difference is in China the gov't can exercise very tight control over the flow of information and in a democracy w free press, etc. like the US, this is virtually impossible for the gov't to do w/o the assistance of the media and other powerful entities. Yeah, Trump would love to have the power that Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un and Putin do but no matter what he will never have this, short of some sort of military coup. In China, the major information outlets are effectively owned by the CCP and the internet is heavily censored. This makes it easy for the CCP to put out any narrative they want and the majority of China's people have little choice but to believe it because that's all they get. So, re: the misinformation and lack of transparency, it's a matter of degree and the difference of degree between China and the US is like night and day.

    The very disturbing thing is that Western media and politicians too often seem to be buying the CCP narrative themselves. I'll tell you, I used to think media like CNN, MSNBC, etc. were relatively objective and that I generally could trust them. I don't anymore. I'm starting to believe that they're just as slanted as Fox News and that I need to be just as wary of the info they try to feed me. That's why I try to consume news from many different sources from around the world. It's about the only way you can get a comprehensive idea of what's really going on. It's hard to do because you have to sift thru a quagmire of different info try and distill as much truth as you can from everything. Most people either do not want to take the time to do this or they just don't have the time. Or, more likely, they just pick a media source that seems most in line w their way of thinking and don't listen to anything else. Such is the state of info and misinfo in modern society.

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