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    Quote Originally Posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
    Who could have ever imagined?
    Well, we now have data and fact that confirm alcohol in the bloodstream does not prevent viral spread. I mean, my state has to contribute something positive to the battle against COVID.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chancellor View Post
    Well, we now have data and fact that confirm alcohol in the bloodstream does not prevent viral spread. I mean, my state has to contribute something positive to the battle against COVID.
    Maybe the people in that study just didn't drink enough. My advice would be to start drinking heavily.

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    Maybe the people in that study just didn't drink enough. My advice would be to start drinking heavily.
    LOL...University of Wisconsin campuses and "didn't drink enough" is about as likely as me winning the lottery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chancellor View Post
    LOL...University of Wisconsin campuses and "didn't drink enough" is about as likely as me winning the lottery.
    Explains quite a bit, that and December games at Lambo.
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    Health officials in Indiana reported on Friday 1,195 new cases of coronavirus over the last 24 hours, along with 18 additional deaths, as the state prepares to move to the final phase of its coronavirus reopening plan on Saturday.

    They think this is good enough to go back to business as usual. Wow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    Health officials in Indiana reported on Friday 1,195 new cases of coronavirus over the last 24 hours, along with 18 additional deaths, as the state prepares to move to the final phase of its coronavirus reopening plan on Saturday.

    They think this is good enough to go back to business as usual. Wow!
    Singling out Indiana doesnt strike me as particularly significant per se. Yes, you can argue that Indiana shouldnt reopen but you can make the same argument for every single state in the US except for one. Indiana's cases have been pretty stable at an average of about 900 per day for about 1.5 months. Indiana has about 2% of the US population and their daily cases are almost exactly the same per capita as the US overall. The WHO recommendations are that jurisdictions shouldnt open up until their cases fall below 1 per 100,000 people for 14 (?) days. For Indiana, this would be about 67 per day so they're nowhere near that but neither is practically any other state. The only exception is Vermont, which has about 600,000 people so their threshold number of cases is 6 and they have had only about 4.5 cases per day over the last 14 days. Most states are over 10 times the threshold number and the US overall is 13 times over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhd View Post
    Singling out Indiana doesnt strike me as particularly significant per se. Yes, you can argue that Indiana shouldnt reopen but you can make the same argument for every single state in the US except for one. Indiana's cases have been pretty stable at an average of about 900 per day for about 1.5 months. Indiana has about 2% of the US population and their daily cases are almost exactly the same per capita as the US overall. The WHO recommendations are that jurisdictions shouldnt open up until their cases fall below 1 per 100,000 people for 14 (?) days. For Indiana, this would be about 67 per day so they're nowhere near that but neither is practically any other state. The only exception is Vermont, which has about 600,000 people so their threshold number of cases is 6 and they have had only about 4.5 cases per day over the last 14 days. Most states are over 10 times the threshold number and the US overall is 13 times over.
    Except Indiana borders Illinois. And Indiana is where the division I work for is located. Opening Indiana puts people I know at risk.

    1195 over 900 is significant enough of an increase to hold off on the opening of the state. This is irresponsible.

    Not every state is moving into their final stages. If they have similar numbers to current Illinois or Indiana I certainly would make the same argument.

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    The world just passed 1 million CV-19 deaths .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    Except Indiana borders Illinois. And Indiana is where the division I work for is located. Opening Indiana puts people I know at risk.

    1195 over 900 is significant enough of an increase to hold off on the opening of the state. This is irresponsible.

    Not every state is moving into their final stages. If they have similar numbers to current Illinois or Indiana I certainly would make the same argument.
    I hope that all of the people close to you remain safe. My point is that similar or worse situations exist in practically every state. It is difficult to compare the current restrictions or lack thereof in the different states. But here is an interesting article at Vox I found that tries to assess the relative feasibility of opening the different states: https://www.vox.com/2020/5/28/212705...tates-map-data. According to this article, which is 3.5 weeks old, there are only 4 states that are ready to reopen: New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Colorado. Indiana does seem to be below average re: its feasibility to reopen, and so are Illinois and Wisconsin. But there appear to be many states that are even worse in this respect, such as Missouri, Kansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina, among others.

    Also, DC has an order requiring travelers that have spent more than 24 hours in a "hi risk" state to self-quarantine for 14 days. There are 31 states on this list, as of Sept 21. Yes, Indiana is one of them but so are 30 other states.

    It is noteworthy that in the Vox article it uses 4 cases per 100,000 people as the threshold of whether a jurisdiction should reopen, which is less strict than the WHO recommendation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhd View Post
    I hope that all of the people close to you remain safe. My point is that similar or worse situations exist in practically every state. It is difficult to compare the current restrictions or lack thereof in the different states. But here is an interesting article at Vox I found that tries to assess the relative feasibility of opening the different states: https://www.vox.com/2020/5/28/212705...tates-map-data. According to this article, which is 3.5 weeks old, there are only 4 states that are ready to reopen: New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Colorado. Indiana does seem to be below average re: its feasibility to reopen, and so are Illinois and Wisconsin. But there appear to be many states that are even worse in this respect, such as Missouri, Kansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina, among others.

    Also, DC has an order requiring travelers that have spent more than 24 hours in a "hi risk" state to self-quarantine for 14 days. There are 31 states on this list, as of Sept 21. Yes, Indiana is one of them but so are 30 other states.

    It is noteworthy that in the Vox article it uses 4 cases per 100,000 people as the threshold of whether a jurisdiction should reopen, which is less strict than the WHO recommendation.
    Thank you and same to you and yours.

    I understand your point. And agree with you.

    I will add:

    The closer the state to each of us the more influence the decisions of the governors have on our general individual well being. The decision by Indiana to open can stand on it's own as bad for local and general health of a nation. It is the one that I read that clearly is hypocritical and a bad choice. It also makes our news more often and in more detail as a border state.

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