Corona Virus

[Kevin Seitzer]

Yea, I personally know 3 Trump voters in 2016 who are changing their vote. I don’t know any Hillary voters from 2016 who are voting Trump this go round, though.

My brother is a Republican, was a Never Trumper in 2016, but is voting for him in 2020. I can't stand to talk much politics with him, but I think it's because he believes the liberal media has been unfair to Trump and that he'd rather have Republicans in power than having the politically correct liberal elites running things and shoving their false morality in his face every day.

[GwynnInTheHall]

you can think whatever you like but I've never been a Trump supporter unless forced to pick between him and your side.

You obviously don't realized how ridiculous this sounds, whish explains pretty much everything.

It's a good thing you have me on Ignore, like every other edifying thing in life.

[DMT]

Don't forget anti-abortion. Pro-choice is bad until someone asks them to wear a mask.

The judiciary is the mechanism with which they hope to criminalize abortion.

[revo]

The EU is reopening travel, but will ban American (and Russian) travelers due to high infection rates.

[rhd]

Another stats update as of 7:46 AM today. Last stats were from 6/22 at 7:46 AM, exactly 7 days ago:

- 2,637,180 cases in US, up from 2,356,715, an increase of 11.90% which is a much larger increase than last time (8.99%). The new cases for this period were 280,465. A comparison w last period's new cases (194,309) gives a new cases increase rate of 1.443, which is much, much higher than that of the last update (1.255). It is an understatement to say that the 2nd wave has started now. I will briefly discuss how staggering these figures are below.
- 128,438 deaths in US, up from 122,249, an increase of 5.06% which is a much larger increase than last time (3.72%). The US mortality rate is now 4.87%, much lower than last time (5.19%).
- 10,220,387 cases worldwide, up from 9,019,955, an increase of 13.31% which is about the same increase rate as last time (13.21%). The new cases for this period were 1,200,432. A comparison w last period's new cases (1,052,778) gives a new cases increase rate of 1.140, which is lower than last time (1.165). This rate remains well above 1.00.
- 504,872 deaths worldwide, up from 471,070, an increase of 7.18% which is smaller than last time (8.04%). The world mortality rate is 4.94%, which is much lower than last time (5.22%).
- 218 countries/territories/etc. have reported cases while only 12 actual countries havent and 2 of those are suspected to have cases. This hasnt changed in a while so until something changes I'll stop listing this.

Rates of increase were much larger than last time for US. New case rate was about the same for the world but the death rate decreased. Cases continue to surge in Russia, Brazil, Peru, Chile, Mexico, the Middle East, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and South Africa.

It's hard for me to believe what is happening in the US now. I expected a 2nd wave but nothing like this. I've noted for a while that some states were having a surge but many of these were states that didnt have many cases to begin with so this was still like part of the 1st wave. The case % increase is the highest it's been since late April. And the new cases rate of increase is the highest it's been since early April, back when the cases were doubling about every 10 days. Basically, we appear to have been set back about 2 1/2 months. This surge has happened only in the last 2-3 weeks, as 2 weeks ago the new cases rate of increase was only 0.911. This is after a prolonged period where things had stabilized. How quickly things can turn. But the surge is practically all in the southern states. The death rate increase is up by a much lesser amount. This is partly because the death of infected persons takes about 2.5-3 weeks to occur so the death rate should go up more. But it might not nearly reach the same rate of increase in cases because many of the new cases are younger people who are a lot less likely to die from the disease. Western Europe generally has not seen a 2nd wave, altho there has been a recent slight uptick in Germany. Not only very disappointing but scary.

[revo]

This isn’t a second wave. This is a resurgence of the first wave, and it's not coincidental that it's in conjunction with the aggressive reopening of these states.

[GwynnInTheHall]

And Calif starting to shut back down--bars, brewery's, winery's all closing--in person dining in certain areas, movie theatres etc. It's almost like opening back up was a bad idea---I wish someone would have told em that.

[chancellor]

And Calif starting to shut back down--bars, brewery's, winery's all closing--in person dining in certain areas, movie theatres etc. It's almost like opening back up was a bad idea---I wish someone would have told em that.

How about the casinos?

[GwynnInTheHall]

How about the casinos?

Not yet, but I expect it soon. Many of them are not adhering to health standards and are currently under investigation.

It shouldn't be long before they close them down.

BTW, my good friend from the last casino I worked at is in quarantine because he came in contact with a covid positive staff member. He has an eight month old son. I could say more, but I am sure you know how I feel about it.

[chancellor]

Not yet, but I expect it soon. Many of them are not adhering to health standards and are currently under investigation.

It shouldn't be long before they close them down.

BTW, my good friend from the last casino I worked at is in quarantine because he came in contact with a covid positive staff member. He has an eight month old son. I could say more, but I am sure you know how I feel about it.

I do. Sorry to hear that about your friend.

[madducks]

Dr. Fauci says Americans have to stop congregating in bars.

"But, but muh freedom."

[Sour Masher]

Dr. Fauci says Americans have to stop congregating in bars.

"But, but muh freedom."

It's spelled freedumb.

[umjewman]

Dr. Fauci says Americans have to stop congregating in bars.

"But, but muh freedom."

DEEP STATE FAUCI STRIKES AGAIN!

Presumably, a current headline on Breitbart.

[GwynnInTheHall]

Have you seen a Trump Rally? Getting drunk at a bar is probably the only way most of them can ever get laid--well that or Family Reunions...........

[chancellor]

For those who may have to fly in the next 2-3 months, good news and bad news - United, American, and Spirit have all announced they'll start filling middle seats on flights. United is tripling it's total flights (for those who fly regularly, that means you can travel to the hell known as O'Hare more easily and frequently), and Delta's adding about 200 flights.