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If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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Originally posted by Teenwolf View PostI'm not sure of a rule fix for this, but it seems a bit strange that guys are excluded from farm drafting while unlikely to be kept.
Move your keeper deadline up a week.
Move your milb draft to the previous keeper cut day.
*potentially* change the eligibility rule to players not on a 40 man roster to change it to a true milb draft. The current mix of first year player draft with guys who are technically still rookies but have spent significant time in mlb makes it a little odd.
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Originally posted by Ken View PostWhat's the punishment if not? Do you risk egg on your face?
Eggsactly.If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Originally posted by Ken View PostThat's typically Byron's spot, I don't think he'd like you sitting in his lap.If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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In other leagues I'm in, we run the minors draft after the majors auction and the players available are those who both qualify for rookie status and are unowned.In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.
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Really surprising how many picks I'd call reaches are made, and how many guys I like a lot fell. You guys seem to devalue pitchers, and rightly so, but you guys go a little farther than I would. Guys like Skubal, Edward Cabrera, Brailyn Marquez, Jordan Balazovic, Chris Bubic, Clarke Schmidtt, Ethan Hankins, and Shane McClanahan were all good value picks where they went imo. On the hitters side, I like the Hoese pick in the second and Pena right after. Pena is so far away, but if he does well and gets the buzz, he will be a nice trade chip. Could be a poor man's Dominguez gotten much later.
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostReally surprising how many picks I'd call reaches are made, and how many guys I like a lot fell. You guys seem to devalue pitchers, and rightly so, but you guys go a little farther than I would. Guys like Skubal, Edward Cabrera, Brailyn Marquez, Jordan Balazovic, Chris Bubic, Clarke Schmidtt, Ethan Hankins, and Shane McClanahan were all good value picks where they went imo. On the hitters side, I like the Hoese pick in the second and Pena right after. Pena is so far away, but if he does well and gets the buzz, he will be a nice trade chip. Could be a poor man's Dominguez gotten much later.---------------------------------------------
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostYou guys seem to devalue pitchers, and rightly so, but you guys go a little farther than I would
With 15 minor league slots and 18 owners, the draft goes crazy deep.
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I think that Rick (Big Tymer) is spot on...it's a league of gold miners, not people who tend to play it safe. Always looking for that next Vladdy or Wander, not so much the next #3 starter for the Tigers. And history has shown that pitching is pretty cheap and available in the RJEL...no need to spend much draft capital on it. Add in the fact that arms are so fragile, many of us just prefer to buy them at single digit prices at auction. There are several teams that have ZERO pitching prospects in their 15 player minors...I may be going in that direction myself.
I'll be graduating Luzardo, May Kopech, and maybe Wright, Morejon and Graterol. I probably won't ever get that pitcher heavy again. Out of that list, half have already missed significant time."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
-Warren Ellis
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I'm one of those teams with zero minor league pitchers and I may have one pitching keeper, but I'm leaning against.
I look at it like this: RJEL is tough. You have 17 other owners who know everything you know and some probably a good deal more. They are creative and knowledgeable and if there's a curve, many of them are likely ahead of it. There is, however, one thing this league gives you: very cheap pitching. It's cheap at draft. It's cheap with FAAB. They're easy to acquire in the ML draft. If you spend on pitching, or waste too many minor league picks or keeper slots on pitchers, you are unable to take advantage of the single biggest market inefficiency the RJEL has. If you pile up on "value" pitchers, that salary is worth less than half of what it would be worth on a hitter earning the same rotisserie value, because they're harder to trade because the owners devalue them and the format of the league (18-team mixed) means there are always dozens of rosterable pitchers just sitting on the waiver wire every week. It's nearly impossible to trade pitching for hitting during the season. Maybe some elite aces will go for full price, but that's only a few players in the whole pool. However, for one good minor league hitter, you can get a top-flight pitcher quite easily.
And because you're smart and you know all this, you think you should zig when others zag and invest in good pitching, but then you've put all your resources into the most statistically volatile stock which means you've essentially left it all up to luck. That may work when you only have to counter the good luck of nine other owners, but in RJEL, it only takes one hitter-focused roster (out of 17) to have better luck than you and you're titleless.
It's the convention in the league and you buck that at your peril. Thar be sharks in them thar waters.
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