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  • #16
    Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
    Brian, you are a very fair minded, respectful and reasonable person who looks for/hopes for the best out of people.

    I believe you vastly underestimate the blind faith and willful ignorance of Trumps base.

    Did you see the idiots who showed up in full tactical gear armed to the teeth in VA? That's just a taste of what trump could rally should he try to fight "extradition"

    Also, there are members of every enforcement agency civil and military, who are on board with Trump. Not saying all, but enough to cause enforcement issues should the Don decide to show is ass yet again.

    This is especially true if Sanders wins--he could use the "He's a Communist/Socialist" battle cry to rally his MAGA Army.

    Again, not saying it's a for sure thing--but should trump get over because it's decided that crimes aren't committed as long as he feels he was acting in the best interest of the country, the possibility of him puling a stunt like this (which was mentioned even before the impeachment trial) starts looking more and more plausible.
    It's one thing to show up like that when you know nothing is going to happen. Quite another to do so in opposition to the military, national guard, and or police.
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    The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by umjewman View Post
      I am prepared to post angrily on Facebook. Verrrrrrry angrily.
      Just 6 r's? Maybe 7....my eyesight is not what it used to be.
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      • #18
        this is no different than conspiracy shit. they said the same thing about Bush and Obama.

        you might as well make a title called will you get the corona virus from drinking corona beer while playing xbox with a dirty controller. ..and you probably will see that in a fact checker tomorrow. that is what society has become.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by nullnor View Post
          this is no different than conspiracy shit. they said the same thing about Bush and Obama.

          you might as well make a title called will you get the corona virus from drinking corona beer while playing xbox with a dirty controller. ..and you probably will see that in a fact checker tomorrow. that is what society has become.
          They did?
          If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

          Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
          Martin Luther King, Jr.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
            They did?
            Yes they did.

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            • #21
              FDR served 3 or 4 terms? this is what confuses me. i mean, i guess it could happen. it would have to take an imminent (or is it eminent, i know Trump got that word wrong recently) threat to even justify it. so that's what it would take for a US president to serve a 3rd term. the end of the world.

              i don't think any president would do it because it killed FDR. i think.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by nullnor View Post
                FDR served 3 or 4 terms? this is what confuses me. i mean, i guess it could happen. it would have to take an imminent (or is it eminent, i know Trump got that word wrong recently) threat to even justify it. so that's what it would take for a US president to serve a 3rd term. the end of the world.

                i don't think any president would do it because it killed FDR. i think.
                So you are saying the Democrats started it? Kidding just kidding,

                Two years after FDR’s death, Congress passed the 22nd Amendment, limiting presidents to two terms. Then amendment was then ratified in 1951.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Gregg View Post
                  So you are saying the Democrats started it? Kidding just kidding,

                  Two years after FDR’s death, Congress passed the 22nd Amendment, limiting presidents to two terms. Then amendment was then ratified in 1951.
                  so timing it makes no sense. why limit a president to 2 terms after FDR. did they do it because of FDR? if so did they do it because it contributed to his poor health and they liked him. or did they do it because they disagreed with him?

                  i don't agree with being friends with Stalin because you need the russians to sacrifice 30 million of their people to defeat Hitler. which obviously opened up a can of worms and Russia became a problem for the next 80 years.

                  it just seems to me that if they did it because of FDR, you did it because you were against a president that helped solve the world's problems. and you'd rather limit it to 2 terms and hope the world can't solve it's problems in 8 years. so the people that voted for the 22nd amendment did it because they prefer anarchy and chaos and never ending elections.

                  at this point i think a prefer a monarchy.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by nullnor View Post
                    so timing it makes no sense. why limit a president to 2 terms after FDR. did they do it because of FDR? if so did they do it because it contributed to his poor health and they liked him. or did they do it because they disagreed with him?

                    i don't agree with being friends with Stalin because you need the russians to sacrifice 30 million of their people to defeat Hitler. which obviously opened up a can of worms and Russia became a problem for the next 80 years.

                    it just seems to me that if they did it because of FDR, you did it because you were against a president that helped solve the world's problems. and you'd rather limit it to 2 terms and hope the world can't solve it's problems in 8 years. so the people that voted for the 22nd amendment did it because they prefer anarchy and chaos and never ending elections.

                    at this point i think a prefer a monarchy.
                    President Roosevelt riled a lot of people, including a lot of Democrats, when he defied tradition (dating back to George Washington) and ran for a third term. He didn't make them any happier when he ran for a 4th term, either, particularly when it was later revealed that his health was failing quickly. The Republicans decided to turn what had been tradition into law via the 22nd Amendment, and a lot of Democrats supported them.

                    As for a monarchy, I am not against a constitutional one in which the monarch plays no overt political role, but picking who would be the monarch, and how the succession would occur, would be an incredible can of worms. think about it--would you REALLY want the monarch to be the son or daughter of any of our recent Presidents or an inherited-status member of one of our "leading families"?
                    Only the madman is absolutely sure. -Robert Anton Wilson, novelist (1932-2007)

                    Faith is believing what you know ain't so. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910)

                    A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
                    -- William James

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