2020 German Marquez

[Sour Masher]

Was amazing in 2018. Was good the first half of 2019. Was bad the second half. It seems to be the limit of magic at Coors field for a pitcher to have one glorious year and then fade. Still, I like the skills, and wonder if he can double the 1st half of 2019. That seems doable and is valuable. What say you?

[Sour Masher]

For those who saw my Caleb Smith thread, that owner keeps stringing me along, so I acquired a $1 Eovaldi basically for free as a back up plan, but I am still looking for an SP upgrade. Marquez is $5 and I like him better than Smith, I think. The Marquez owner would take Logan Gilbert for him.

[Judge Jude]

I owned both Smith and Marquez last year (!).
Smith seems to have a higher ceiling, so I'd take him by a nose.

if Marquez seems 100 pct in mid-March, though, then yes I could see it.

[Sour Masher]

I owned both Smith and Marquez last year (!).
Smith seems to have a higher ceiling, so I'd take him by a nose.

if Marquez seems 100 pct in mid-March, though, then yes I could see it.

Smith is $3 more and I am very broke, so that is a small factor as well. IDK, I guess I perceive Smith to be more injury prone. Marquez is younger too. As far as ceiling, 2018 marquez was pretty darn good.

[Judge Jude]

interesting. I think you won me over.
well, I expect both to open next season in my rotation

[kldub4life]

If you could be disciplined enough to only start Marquez on the road you have a near elite pitcher.

Let's look a triple slash against him the last 2 years:

2018
Home: .284/.344/.452
Away: .203/.260/.349

2019
Home: .317/.354/.495
Away: .212/.254/.397

So combined in 2018-2019 his road triple slash against was:

.208/.257/.373

Let's compare that to:

.222/.267/.372

Any idea what pitcher that is?
It is this pitchers full season triple slash against for last year.
So by this metric Marquez was slightly better in comparison of just his road starts.
The pitcher: Max Scherzer

[Sour Masher]

Ah, if only they would trade him, but that would be dumb of them. It is amazing considering how much that org does to dampen the Coors affect how pronounced it still is. They build a massive field to suppress homers, the water-log the balls in the humidor. All that amounts to is making it in range of a normal park. The early years were really out there.

I'm very close to getting him for Alek Thomas and my 3rd round prospect recoop draft.

[Judge Jude]

and of course I own Scherzer, too! now someone do Jeff Samardzija!


ours is a no-bench league - and when we go bowling, we don't use the bumpers, either.
horseback riding? no saddle. #howweroll

[Ken]

and of course I own Scherzer, too! now someone do Jeff Samardzija!


ours is a no-bench league - and when we go bowling, we don't use the bumpers, either.
horseback riding? no saddle. #howweroll

Really? Seems like the opposite to me. Anyone can build a lineup of just 23, but being able to manage the bench such that you can fill in the gaps and figure out matchups and injury fill ins / etc with the correct amount of coverage for each position involves a careful utilization of your bench. And then how many spots do you devote to this year, and how many are you willing to devote to the future? How do you build a dynasty going forward and also win this year? Wait you just have a regular 23 man roster, and don't have to worry about beating your competition's bench construction? Why do you have the bumpers out?

[Judge Jude]

#decaf

[Ken]

#decaf

I always get a good chuckle when someone pounds their chest (even in jest) about being #extra only to find out they are #lacking instead. Typically when that happens the next move is for them to complain about the analysis rather than put up an actual argument.

Either way its always good for a laugh.



.... But you are right, it was definitely up hill both ways, dad. And in the snow, I know.

[Sour Masher]

I landed Marquez and feel pretty good about it. I ended up giving Alek Thomas and my 2nd round prospect pick for his 4th and 5th rounders (last two rounds). Marquez rounds maybe the best keeper lists I have ever had, although I am also broker than ever before, because I am choosing to keep a very pricey Verlander. I don't have any money to address need in the auction, and I depleted almost all of my prospects, but I think I can make post auction moves to get what I need:

15 keepers:

Carlos Santana
Whit Merrifield
Francisco Lindor
Nolan Arenado
Dansby Swanson
Alex Bregman
Michael Brantley
Michael Conforto
David Dahl
Gerritt Cole
Justin Verlander
Charlie Morton
German Marquez
Craig Kimbrel
Edwin Diaz

[joncarlos]

He threw more sliders last year and threw them harder, but the pitch value was way worse. Both Z-contact and O-contact were worse than 2018. But swinging strike rate was better. Given the juicy ball his HR/9 increase was unsurprising but unless the ball comes back to earth, I'm not sure I expect a rebound. I dunno, man, Coors is just so weird. Raw K% was worse but raw BB% was better. Pitching to more contact in Coors in a juiced ball era?