Page 41 of 52 FirstFirst ... 31394041424351 ... LastLast
Results 401 to 410 of 518

Thread: Police Officers Are Mostly Parasites

  1. #401
    Journeyman Teenwolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Thunder Bay, ON, CAN
    Posts
    3,037
    Quote Originally Posted by DMT View Post
    Yep, just like we stopped invading and killing people in the Middle East after 9/11. The only violence that doesn't lead to "more" violence is annihilation like WW2. And the more is obviously in quotes for a reason. You guys are honestly totally delusional if you think attacking random cops is going to reduce violence. It's totally illogical.

    Now, that doesn't mean that I think the current system is working or defensible in any sense. It's absolutely appalling that our justice system is so geared toward protecting what is obviously a very corrupt profession. I know this isn't a popular opinion, but I hate cops, all of them, and have since a young. There were no cops among my family or family friends to act as positive role models. I've encountered a few who weren't complete douchebag assholes, but most were. So, we are in agreement that significant reform is absolutely required. But that reform will go nowhere if violent attacks against cops sharply increase. To pretend otherwise is ridiculous.
    Its such an indictment of America that you can't even imagine your country taking the same actions to prevent massacres that other countries do. I understand your perspective after your country refused to respond to Sandy Hook and all the other massacres. Its just really sad.

    Again, I'm not advocating for violence against police. What I'm saying is, if 5 Dallas cops getting shot resulted in Canadian coffee shops giving cops free cookies, what would the ripple effect be from 1000 cops being killed on the job? I cannot say for sure, and neither can you. Pretending you know exactly how that would play out, that seems ridiculous to me.

    Police in Calgary voluntarily cut their own budgets to comply with the will of the people, and we didn't even have to kill any cops. I'm not dreaming anything, I'm watching changes happen in real time when enough public pressure is applied. It seems there is no amount of public pressure to force US cops to de-militarize and defund. But you haven't seen the pressure that results from 1000 dead cops, so don't pretend you know exactly how it would play out. Couldn't possibly be worse than the results of peaceful protest where the right wing rallies behind those who murder protestors. How could anything be worse than the status quo, where there exists an illusion of lawfulness being upheld and those abused by police are spat on by both the left and the right? Biden wants to expand police funding and calls protestors anarchists, so he fucking sucks on the issue. There is nothing to hold onto but the violence in the streets leading to change. If cops are killed without cause, thats bad, but if their deaths lead to police adopting alternative policies, thats good. Seems like simple math to me.

  2. #402
    All Star Ken's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    6,992
    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    Ken, you misrepresent what I just said. I said "as many police officers killed as we normally see police kill innocent people" You think all police in America only kill 5 innocent people per year?
    No you misunderstood. The 1000 has never happened obviously, but 5 have in Dallas which is a reasonable comparison on a smaller scale and Dallas didn't change (if you think it did, talk to Botham Jean)

    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    Let me be more specific, if 1000 officers were killed, do you think it would lead to zero reform?
    The idea of killing 1000 officers is gross.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    We saw the mass outpouring of sympathy for 5 officers killed (my town had a coffee shop respond by giving all LEO's FREE COOKIES after Dallas
    So did it work? All these people respond, did that violence work? What did it solve?


    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    , and I'm not even residing in your broken shithole country). Imagine the public response to 1000 officers being killed.
    If I try to imagine that, I can only imagine the hate and anger that would bring - we see it today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    Would the public seek to increase violence... against themselves?
    Sorry that makes no sense.


    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    You think police would continue to escalate violence without instead thinking maybe instead of defending themselves
    You don't see that happening now? Every time the police shoot someone the immediate feedback is that they were defending themselves so they shot first and asked questions later. You know this.


    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    , they could DEFUND themselves, as those who seek to harm them are demanding, and lower the level of danger they face?
    If you think they would just defund themselves then you haven't been paying attention at all to the public conversation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    You think NOT ONE police authority would decide to listen to that level of public pressure?
    To pressure sure, to violence, no absolutely not. They'd arm themselves more and shoot even quicker.


    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    I'm not 100% sure of what would happen if violence escalated beyond proportions we can currently fathom. But neither can you say with any certainty that violence only leads to more violence.
    You aren't sure what happens, but hell lets just kill 1000 people. Great idea. Genius I tell you.

  3. #403
    All Star Sour Masher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Binghamton, NY
    Posts
    7,920
    These perspectives on the left advocating for violence to fight violence is a good reminder that the path to hell is paved with good intentions, and it isn't just the right that believes such things. Convictions fueled by righteousness and the firm belief that bad acts are justified by noble ends is a story as old as history. We see it in every horror humanity has ever committed.

  4. #404
    Journeyman Teenwolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Thunder Bay, ON, CAN
    Posts
    3,037
    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    No you misunderstood. The 1000 has never happened obviously, but 5 have in Dallas which is a reasonable comparison on a smaller scale and Dallas didn't change (if you think it did, talk to Botham Jean)



    The idea of killing 1000 officers is gross.



    So did it work? All these people respond, did that violence work? What did it solve?




    If I try to imagine that, I can only imagine the hate and anger that would bring - we see it today.



    Sorry that makes no sense.




    You don't see that happening now? Every time the police shoot someone the immediate feedback is that they were defending themselves so they shot first and asked questions later. You know this.




    If you think they would just defund themselves then you haven't been paying attention at all to the public conversation.




    To pressure sure, to violence, no absolutely not. They'd arm themselves more and shoot even quicker.




    You aren't sure what happens, but hell lets just kill 1000 people. Great idea. Genius I tell you.
    You are such a joke. You can only win an argument by misrepresenting what I've said. If you want to devate what I've actually said, I'm happy to. If you want to make shit up and then display how you're a better and holier person, go for it.

    You literally took a quote of mine and cut it in mid-sentence, then critiqued each half of my statement individually. You are such a fucking dishonest debater.

    Where did I say "let's just kill 1000 people"? Why would anybody debate someone like you?

    "Genius, genius I tell you" as a response to something I didn't fucking say!

  5. #405
    Journeyman Teenwolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Thunder Bay, ON, CAN
    Posts
    3,037
    Quote Originally Posted by Sour Masher View Post
    These perspectives on the left advocating for violence to fight violence is a good reminder that the path to hell is paved with good intentions, and it isn't just the right that believes such things. Convictions fueled by righteousness and the firm belief that bad acts are justified by noble ends is a story as old as history. We see it in every horror humanity has ever committed.
    Why am I unable to hold both positions, abhorring violence while welcoming positive repurcussions from it? Saying "violence only leads to more violence" runs counter to the massacres that resulted in assault weapons bans. The bans would not have happened without the massacre, and i can still celebrate the ban while mourning the tragedy.

  6. #406
    All Star Ken's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    6,992
    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    You are such a joke. You can only win an argument by misrepresenting what I've said.
    I didn't misrepresent anything you said, you misunderstood my Dallas example, own it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    If you want to devate what I've actually said, I'm happy to.
    We already did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    If you want to make shit up and then display how you're a better and holier person, go for it.
    I didn't make anything up, I literally responded to your points individually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    You literally took a quote of mine and cut it in mid-sentence, then critiqued each half of my statement individually.
    Indeed - you had multiple different points that I was responding to. Why is this hard to understand?


    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    You are such a fucking dishonest debater.
    Stay classy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    Where did I say "let's just kill 1000 people"?
    "Let me be more specific, if 1000 officers were killed"


    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    Why would anybody debate someone like you?
    I ask myself that every time you post, there's no logic when arguing with you.


    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    "Genius, genius I tell you" as a response to something I didn't fucking say!
    You literally did say "if 1000 officers were killed". Why is this so hard?

  7. #407
    All Star Ken's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    6,992
    "Yeah, all of those motherfuckers deserve to suffer pain and injury, since we know they are immune from career repercussions. If they die, thats a consequence of their choice to work for a corrupt organization." - TeenWolf


    "Let me be more specific, if 1000 officers were killed, do you think it would lead to zero reform" - TeenWolf


    "Where did I say "let's just kill 1000 people"?" - TeenWolf



    LOL, okay.

  8. #408
    Journeyman Teenwolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Thunder Bay, ON, CAN
    Posts
    3,037
    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    "Yeah, all of those motherfuckers deserve to suffer pain and injury, since we know they are immune from career repercussions. If they die, thats a consequence of their choice to work for a corrupt organization." - TeenWolf


    "Let me be more specific, if 1000 officers were killed, do you think it would lead to zero reform" - TeenWolf


    "Where did I say "let's just kill 1000 people"?" - TeenWolf



    LOL, okay.
    "Let us kill 1000 people""

    "If 1000 officers were killed"

    Do you not see a difference in the active vs passive voice?

    Yeah, responding to two halves of a paragraph as if they're unrelated isn't misrepresenting what was said... okay...

    Not worth my time.

  9. #409
    Journeyman Teenwolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Thunder Bay, ON, CAN
    Posts
    3,037
    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    Its such an indictment of America that you can't even imagine your country taking the same actions to prevent massacres that other countries do. I understand your perspective after your country refused to respond to Sandy Hook and all the other massacres. Its just really sad.

    Again, I'm not advocating for violence against police. What I'm saying is, if 5 Dallas cops getting shot resulted in Canadian coffee shops giving cops free cookies, what would the ripple effect be from 1000 cops being killed on the job? I cannot say for sure, and neither can you. Pretending you know exactly how that would play out, that seems ridiculous to me.

    Police in Calgary voluntarily cut their own budgets to comply with the will of the people, and we didn't even have to kill any cops. I'm not dreaming anything, I'm watching changes happen in real time when enough public pressure is applied. It seems there is no amount of public pressure to force US cops to de-militarize and defund. But you haven't seen the pressure that results from 1000 dead cops, so don't pretend you know exactly how it would play out. Couldn't possibly be worse than the results of peaceful protest where the right wing rallies behind those who murder protestors. How could anything be worse than the status quo, where there exists an illusion of lawfulness being upheld and those abused by police are spat on by both the left and the right? Biden wants to expand police funding and calls protestors anarchists, so he fucking sucks on the issue. There is nothing to hold onto but the violence in the streets leading to change. If cops are killed without cause, thats bad, but if their deaths lead to police adopting alternative policies, thats good. Seems like simple math to me.
    Relavant bit bolded for the reading impaired.

  10. #410
    All Star Ken's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    6,992
    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    Relavant bit bolded for the reading impaired.
    Good Lord you can’t be this stupid. The discussion point was whether violence was appropriate towards cops and you clearly took the side that it was. The backtracking now is pathetic. Take a side and own it.

    I don’t read most of your posts frankly. The majority of them are mindless drivel. I didn’t read the one you quoted above so you can take the “reading impaired” bit and shove it up your ass.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •