Is Joey Votto a Hall of Famer?

[TS Garp]

.310 career average
.427 career OBP (12th all-time)
.529 career SLG
270 home runs
898 RBI
935 runs
1736 hits
74 steals
1108 walks/1194 k's
155 OPS+
58.7 career WAR (per bbref)

2010 MVP
3 Top 3 MVP finishes
6 Top 10 MVP finishes
6 All-star appearances
1 Gold glove
Led league in OBP 7 times and MLB 3 times.

[Sour Masher]

Before the recent crop of HOFers, I'd have said close, but no cigar. Now I say he is a lock if he has a few more good seasons, which I think he will. His skill set should age well. Not the power, but his OBP. He has already had a better career than Harold Baines, with nearly twice is WAR.

[TS Garp]

Baines is a tough comp for anyone as that was such an odd choice, but I think it's tough to imagine Votto not getting in when Edgar Martinez is in there. Fairly similar skill-sets and of course Edgar played in an extreme offensive era and didn't contribute on defense for the majority of his career.

[pitbull]

I was looking over the current 1B in the HOF and perhaps Votto is similiar to Jim Bottomley. Where I see Votto lacking is the RBI, Runs and Hits. Being 35 now I think he would need to play until 40. Still needs another 3 yrs of good production from RBI, Runs and Hits. Hits wise provided he stays healthy and no huge decline he could get to 2200 give or take. His runs and rbis are lower than most of the 1B already in. If he gets to 1100 runs scored and 1200 RBI then it should be a slam dunk for the HOF. Another hitter is Hank Greenberg who played less games but Votto could match his stats. Close but not there yet.

Jim Bottomly
At Bats 8354
Runs 1177
Hits 2313
Home Runs 219
RBI 1422
Stolen Bases 58
Walks 664
Batting Average .310
OPS .869
On Base % .369
Slugging % .500

[TS Garp]

I was looking over the current 1B in the HOF and perhaps Votto is similiar to Jim Bottomley. Where I see Votto lacking is the RBI, Runs and Hits. Being 35 now I think he would need to play until 40. Still needs another 3 yrs of good production from RBI, Runs and Hits. Hits wise provided he stays healthy and no huge decline he could get to 2200 give or take. His runs and rbis are lower than most of the 1B already in. If he gets to 1100 runs scored and 1200 RBI then it should be a slam dunk for the HOF. Another hitter is Hank Greenberg who played less games but Votto could match his stats. Close but not there yet.

Jim Bottomly
At Bats 8354
Runs 1177
Hits 2313
Home Runs 219
RBI 1422
Stolen Bases 58
Walks 664
Batting Average .310
OPS .869
On Base % .369
Slugging % .500

Bottomley played in a great era for hitters. His OPS+ is a solid but unspectacular 125, compared to 155 for Votto. Also, a .369 OBP compared to .427 for Votto. Votto is under contract for 5 more seasons, so unless he misses a great deal of time due to injury or his performance slips to the point where he's a part-time player, he should get to 1,200 runs and 1,200 RBI fairly easily.

[The Feral Slasher]

Bottomley played in a great era for hitters. His OPS+ is a solid but unspectacular 125, compared to 155 for Votto. Also, a .369 OBP compared to .427 for Votto. Votto is under contract for 5 more seasons, so unless he misses a great deal of time due to injury or his performance slips to the point where he's a part-time player, he should get to 1,200 runs and 1,200 RBI fairly easily.

I think Joey is in the Vintage Draft hall of Fame now anyway

[pitbull]

Bottomley played in a great era for hitters. His OPS+ is a solid but unspectacular 125, compared to 155 for Votto. Also, a .369 OBP compared to .427 for Votto. Votto is under contract for 5 more seasons, so unless he misses a great deal of time due to injury or his performance slips to the point where he's a part-time player, he should get to 1,200 runs and 1,200 RBI fairly easily.

To be honest I don't know what the criteria is used to vote players in. When I look at the 1B in the HOF I'm just comparing stats regardless of the era players played in. I agree that he should get to 1200 runs and rbi if he stays healthy. Again I think he is close and another good 3 seasons should wrap it up for him.

[Judge Jude]

for another comparison

best top 10s in OPS+
Bottomley 2 3 4 6 10 (in an 8-team league)
JoeyVotto 1 1 2 2 3 4 5

some other career 125 OPS+ers include HOFers Yogi Berra, Kiki Cuyler, Ron Santo, and George Sisler - but also J.D. Drew, Bernie Williams, Leon Durham, Edwin Encarnacion....

the only other career 155 OPS+sers are Hank Aaron, Mel Ott, and Joe DiMaggio

- Votto obviously is NOT as good as any of those three (longevity, position and war credit) and never will be

- his decline phase, for instance, could sink him all the way to 147 with 6 others (all of them in the HOF: Edgar, Stargell, McCovey, Schmidt, Thome, Sam Thompson)

[Fresno Bob]

Votto is a 1st ballot SIM league/OBP HOF

[revo]

Maybe not first ballot, but if he has another solid 5 years, he will be. Perhaps the best OBP guy of our generation.

[minnehan]

Someone please remind me... how many World Series rings does Joey own?

Its called the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of "Pretty Good" players.

[Sour Masher]

Someone please remind me... how many World Series rings does Joey own?

Its called the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of "Pretty Good" players.

Yeah, kick Cobb, Wliams, Banks,.Griffey and all the other bums with out a ring out of the HOF.

[The Feral Slasher]

Someone please remind me... how many World Series rings does Joey own?

Its called the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of "Pretty Good" players.

Well i hope they dont vote people into the hof based on the performance of the teams they were part of....go yankees !

[The Feral Slasher]

Yeah, kick Cobb, Wliams, Banks,.Griffey and all the other bums with out a ring out of the HOF.

I have as many rings as Ernie Banks....

[Sour Masher]

I have as many rings as Ernie Banks....

I have as many as all those guys combined!