What was I thinking? I drafted Eflin today!

[Judge Jude]

he was kept at 10 in my deep NL no-bench league

[Gregg]

Hopefully you started him today.

I bought him for $7 in my NL only and did start him.

[Judge Jude]

"benches" - sigh.

back in my day, no one put on a seat belt or a bicycle helmet - and if you own a pitcher, he pitches for you every time until you get rid of him (and you are limited in how often you can do that). if he is borderline and headed to Coors Field - well, do you feel lucky?

#getoffmylawn

[pitbull]

"benches" - sigh.

back in my day, no one put on a seat belt or a bicycle helmet - and if you own a pitcher, he pitches for you every time until you get rid of him (and you are limited in how often you can do that). if he is borderline and headed to Coors Field - well, do you feel lucky?

#getoffmylawn

This is why I like daily moves with a bench. You can shuttle pitchers or hitters in and out of your line-up. My other NL league I wasn't paying attention and left Burnes and his 12 K on the bench and that is a weekly line-up. Big Sigh -

[Judge Jude]

"You can shuttle pitchers or hitters in and out of your line-up."

"This is why I like having those bumpers in what used to be called gutters in bowling - you can make a terrible throw and still knock down some pins!"
"I love that everyone gets a participation trophy - even if their team sucks!"

God forbid that you might have to own a player and receive his stats, come what may. The Rotisserie League founders would be rolling over in their graves, if they were dead. A 'bench' is in fundamental opposition to the basic tenets of the game.

#getoffmylawn

[pitbull]

"You can shuttle pitchers or hitters in and out of your line-up."

"This is why I like having those bumpers in what used to be called gutters in bowling - you can make a terrible throw and still knock down some pins!"
"I love that everyone gets a participation trophy - even if their team sucks!"

God forbid that you might have to own a player and receive his stats, come what may. The Rotisserie League founders would be rolling over in their graves, if they were dead. A 'bench' is in fundamental opposition to the basic tenets of the game.

#getoffmylawn

The founding fathers put this game together in a restaurant and the technology back then was stats by hand and USA Today. Maybe you and Clint can have a drink together provided he doesn't tell you to "get off my lawn" then point his finger at you thinking he can shoot you with it.

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[minnehan]

Eflin earned his participation trophy yesterday, for sure!

[Sharky]

The founding fathers put this game together in a restaurant and the technology back then was stats by hand and USA Today. Maybe you and Clint can have a drink together provided he doesn't tell you to "get off my lawn" then point his finger at you thinking he can shoot you with it.

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I’m with JJ on this one. The issue is that daily activations favor people who have more free time. Sure, I generally check scores and news a hundred times a day. But there are plenty of days when work precludes doing so. I played in a daily lineup league a few times and won’t go back.

[minnehan]

I’m with JJ on this one. The issue is that daily activations favor people who have more free time. Sure, I generally check scores and news a hundred times a day. But there are plenty of days when work precludes doing so. I played in a daily lineup league a few times and won’t go back.

When the discussion about switching from weekly to daily came up in one of my leagues someone said in response, "I'm already married."

[Judge Jude]

We actually dialed it down further this year.

we have always been a "pounce" league - if your player hit the DL, you had an opening that maybe no one else had.
if the player was good, it sucked, but at least if someone (not in our extensive farm system) came up or an MLB guy suddenly got an expanded role, you could grab him.

now this year we are trying the onroto bidmeister option.

so for example, the guy who has Trea Turner has no other SS eligibles. in our deep league, there are only 3 unowned options.
last year, he could have just immediately grabbed one if he liked.
this year, he doesn't even get that consolation - someone more favored than him in the pecking order might take that bum away.

funny thing is that literally half the owners in this league are retired, and only two have kids who aren't adults. we never wanted daily transax, but I didn't expect to end even the 'pounce' option, effective the next weekly period. but we're trying it.

[pitbull]

I’m with JJ on this one. The issue is that daily activations favor people who have more free time. Sure, I generally check scores and news a hundred times a day. But there are plenty of days when work precludes doing so. I played in a daily lineup league a few times and won’t go back.

To me it involves a whole 5 minutes to make daily moves but I understand what you are saying.

[ThatRogue]

"benches" - sigh.

back in my day, no one put on a seat belt or a bicycle helmet - and if you own a pitcher, he pitches for you every time until you get rid of him (and you are limited in how often you can do that). if he is borderline and headed to Coors Field - well, do you feel lucky?

#getoffmylawn

Benches allow us to manage our teams during the season. We play with 40 man rosters - 25 active and 15 reserves. It provides a lot of flexibility to build the minor league squad and the major league bench. This way, we get the experience of the owner, the manager and the GM. We use weekly transactions instead of daily, and a $100 FAAB to purchase players - unlimited though...only six moves would feel so restrictive.

[Judge Jude]

well, we can make dozens of moves if a lot of our guys get hurt or demoted.
we just can't 'stream' players willy-nilly all season.

point is that your auction roster gets to look at least a little like your final roster in October.

a bunch of our owners who play in other leagues, meanwhile, got us to switch to onroto's Bidmeister this year. so far it is hated.

old way: I own Dickerson, he goes to the DL about 6 hours after our weekly moves, but I can check the available players list. hmm, JB Shuck may get some of the new PT - but he shucks. Pirates bring up the kid Martin - a better play? what's a Zagunis and why is he hitting .500 for the Cubs? Howie Kendrick, a favorite of mine but how often will he play?

so lots of choices.

with Bidmeister? no reason to even bother looking at the list of available players for 6 days.
and come Thursday morning, I'll be 7th in the pecking order - so anyone who is hitting this week will be snatched away.
the limitation of six 'free' moves means owners will start getting stingy by midseason, which helps the teams replacing an injured player. but for now, it just sucks.

anyone else use Bidmeister? the selling point was supposed to be, "this way if a hot minor leaguer comes up or there is a newly-minted closer, he doesn't just go to a team 'lucky' enough to have an opening."

I guess. oddly enough, literally half the owners in this league are retired and only one has a kid who is still a minor. plus our farmhand systems hold up to 8 players, so no one in a top 70 or so on a prospect list is unowned.

I think come October it will be, "Bidmeister, we hardly knew ye!"

[ThatRogue]

well, we can make dozens of moves if a lot of our guys get hurt or demoted.
we just can't 'stream' players willy-nilly all season.

point is that your auction roster gets to look at least a little like your final roster in October.

a bunch of our owners who play in other leagues, meanwhile, got us to switch to onroto's Bidmeister this year. so far it is hated.

old way: I own Dickerson, he goes to the DL about 6 hours after our weekly moves, but I can check the available players list. hmm, JB Shuck may get some of the new PT - but he shucks. Pirates bring up the kid Martin - a better play? what's a Zagunis and why is he hitting .500 for the Cubs? Howie Kendrick, a favorite of mine but how often will he play?

so lots of choices.

with Bidmeister? no reason to even bother looking at the list of available players for 6 days.
and come Thursday morning, I'll be 7th in the pecking order - so anyone who is hitting this week will be snatched away.
the limitation of six 'free' moves means owners will start getting stingy by midseason, which helps the teams replacing an injured player. but for now, it just sucks.

anyone else use Bidmeister? the selling point was supposed to be, "this way if a hot minor leaguer comes up or there is a newly-minted closer, he doesn't just go to a team 'lucky' enough to have an opening."

I guess. oddly enough, literally half the owners in this league are retired and only one has a kid who is still a minor. plus our farmhand systems hold up to 8 players, so no one in a top 70 or so on a prospect list is unowned.

I think come October it will be, "Bidmeister, we hardly knew ye!"

Why not use FAAB? Everyone starts the season with the same budget to use to acquire free agents, and each week, you're allowed to use that budget to submit bids. Highest bid wins, and any player acquired with a bid over $50 must be kept, or an actual cash penalty must be paid into next season's pool. We use standings for waiver wire position - any released player spends a week on waivers and can be claimed, with priority in reverse order of standings, before becoming a free agent who is thereafter eligible for FAAB bids.

Bidmeister sounds terrible. An owner still has to be "lucky" to be the team with the highest priority that week, in order to get the hot minor leaguer or AL traded player. FAAB gives everyone an equal shot, dependent on how high they want to go now vs how much they want to save to pursue a future player (or players)

[Judge Jude]

we just have FAAB for arrivals from AL.

ultimately it comes down to how important leagues want to make the auctions.
the Rotisserie founders wanted them to be paramount - only 3 waiver moves per year, and you could only claim some other owner's discards, for example. we subscribe to the original philosophy, basically, but loosened the screws a tad.

but there's more than one way to skin a cat - or so I am told