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    Bill Belichick's place in sports history

    I think we can agree that Belichick has surpassed Bill Walsh, Lombardi, Shula etc and is clearly the best coach in the history of the NFL. But what about sports, in general? Understanding that it's very difficult to compare across sports and eras, where does he stand next to coaches like Wooden, Summit, Aurebach, Bryant, Phil Jackson, Bowman etc?

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    I’m ruling out college, where certain schools have a major recruiting advantage.

    Auerbach & Jackson had some of the greatest basketball players in history at their disposal.

    To do what Belichick has done in the modern NFL is just unsurpassed.

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    I would likely put him No. 1
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    He's a cheater followed closely by Pete Carroll. Hard to put him first.
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    Third most regular season coaching wins in NFL history.

    1. Don Shula 328-156-6
    2. George Halas 318-148-31
    3. Bill Belichick 261-123-0
    4. Tom Landry 250-162-6
    5. Curly Lambeau 226-132-22
    6. Paul Brown 213-104-9
    7. Marty Schottenheimer 200-126-1
    8. Andy Reid 195-124-1
    9. Chuck Noll 193-148-1
    10. Dan Reeves 190-165-2
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    Tied for second most NFL championships won

    1. Paul Brown 7
    2. Bill Belichick 6
    2. George Halas 6
    2. Curly Lambeau 6
    5. Vince Lombardi 5
    6. Chuck Noll 4
    6. Guy Chamberlain 4
    8. Joe Gibbs 3
    8. Weeb Ewbank 3
    8. Bill Walsh 3

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    First in NFL playoff wins

    1. Bill Belichick 31-11
    2. Tom Landry 20-16
    3. Don Shula 19-17
    4. Joe Gibbs 17-7
    5. Chuck Noll 16-8
    6. Mike Holmgren 13-8
    7. Tom Coughlin 12-7
    8. Bill Cowher 12-9
    8. Andy Reid 12-14
    10. Bill Parcels 11-8
    10. Marv Levy 11-8
    10. Dan Reeves 11-9

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    Quote Originally Posted by In the Corn View Post
    He's a cheater followed closely by Pete Carroll. Hard to put him first.
    I get so tried of the "cheater" tag. If he was such a cheater, then why haven't the owners come down HARD on the Pats? So the other owners just let the Pats cheat and win Super Bowls because the other owners don't care about winning Super Bowls??? It's all bullshit.

    Belichick is clearly #1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revo View Post
    I’m ruling out college, where certain schools have a major recruiting advantage.

    Auerbach & Jackson had some of the greatest basketball players in history at their disposal.

    To do what Belichick has done in the modern NFL is just unsurpassed.
    Jackson was a master at managing egos. He made it look easy. I enjoyed him as the Bull's coach and missed him when he was gone. Hard for me to put him over Belichick. Belichick just seems to win no matter what. This last season was kind of amazing. I didn't think they had a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TS Garp View Post
    I think we can agree that Belichick has surpassed Lombardi,
    I'm still not sure about this one.

    Lombardi 10 years, 5 titles, no losing seasons (Packers were 1-10-1 pre-Lombardi, 7-5 in year 1; hadn't had a winning season in 11 years prior to Lombardi; Redskins 5-9 pre-Lombardi, 7-5-2 in year 1; hadn't had a winning season in 13 seasons prior to Lombardi), winning % of .738.

    Belichick 24 years, 6 titles, 5 losing seasons (Browns were 3-13 pre-Bill, 6-10 in year 1; had winning seasons 4 years in a row prior to the 3-13 year; Patriots 8-8 pre-Bill, 5-11 in year 1; had winning seasons 3 years in a row prior to the 8-8 year), winning % of .680. All 5 losing seasons were in his 1st six years of coaching, 18 straight years of winning seasons since then.

    By the numbers I think Lombardi is a pretty clear winner. The only reason Bill is talked about being better is the vast difference in the game from the Lombardi era till now. It is tough to argue Lombardi is better than Bill but I still think there is an argument to be had.

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