2K19: Willians Astudillo

[onejayhawk]

Got him of WW in my AL only league. Idiots.

J

[Ken]

Got him of WW in my AL only league. Idiots.

J

Careful, there are others in this thread who said they'd pass on him entirely.

[madducks]

I think i have figured out the secret to this guy's success.

[Ken]

Nope...he's 3 string t catcher an cn't really play qnother position. I'll pass....

Hmmmm, word is that he is starting at 1B today, hitting out of the 3 hole. He's also played at 3B and LF this year already.

[joncarlos]

Hmmmm, word is that he is starting at 1B today, hitting out of the 3 hole. He's also played at 3B and LF this year already.

The Twins did just get rid of Tyler Austin. One more place Astudillo can play.

[Hornsby]

Hmmmm, word is that he is starting at 1B today, hitting out of the 3 hole. He's also played at 3B and LF this year already.

Just because they hand you a glove and point you out to a position doesn't mean that you can play it well, or even in a passable manner.

They'll keep putting him out there until he shows that he can't hit at the major league level, or that he's the statistical anomaly that neither walks, nor K's, but keeps putting the ball in play. 114 MLB plate appearances...3 walks, 3 strikeouts. It's a virtual impossibility, but he keeps putting the bat on the ball. I'd be happy to be proven wrong over the long haul, but we'll see.

[The Feral Slasher]

Just because they hand you a glove and point you out to a position doesn't mean that you can play it well, or even in a passable manner.

They'll keep putting him out there until he shows that he can't hit at the major league level, or that he's the statistical anomaly that neither walks, nor K's, but keeps putting the ball in play. 114 MLB plate appearances...3 walks, 3 strikeouts. It's a virtual impossibility, but he keeps putting the bat on the ball. I'd be happy to be proven wrong over the long haul, but we'll see.

That does seem impossible, wow

[Ken]

Just because they hand you a glove and point you out to a position doesn't mean that you can play it well, or even in a passable manner.

They'll keep putting him out there until he shows that he can't hit at the major league level, or that he's the statistical anomaly that neither walks, nor K's, but keeps putting the ball in play. 114 MLB plate appearances...3 walks, 3 strikeouts. It's a virtual impossibility, but he keeps putting the bat on the ball. I'd be happy to be proven wrong over the long haul, but we'll see.

It seems that you and the twins have very different definitions of "can't play another position". He actually played an inning in CF last year. I think people look at his body and assume he's not athletic, and that's a mistake.

Here's a quote from spring training:

"Where don't we want to see him defensively, is the question," Baldelli said. "We are going to move him around. We're going to give him opportunities to show us what he can do. I think in addition to us thinking he can do it, I think that's what he wants. We know it's going to be fun to watch it happen."

[Hornsby]

It seems that you and the twins have very different definitions of "can't play another position". He actually played an inning in CF last year. I think people look at his body and assume he's not athletic, and that's a mistake.

Here's a quote from spring training:

I'm sure that everyone who plays in the major leagues is athletic enough to "play" just about every position...the question is whether they can play it well enough to not hurt the team while doing so. He's an athlete for sure, his hand-eye coordination is amazing. BUT, he really has no position with Cruz at DH and the tandem of catchers the Twins have, so they squeeze him in here and there, and will continue to do so as long as the hits keep falling in.

[Ken]

I'm sure that everyone who plays in the major leagues is athletic enough to "play" just about every position...

That's quite a bit of hyperbole. Albert Pujols will never be put in CF. Pablo Sandoval will never be put in CF. More to the catcher point, Welington Castillo will never be put in CF. Evan Gattis will never be put in CF. Astudillo was. Because he can play there.

He's athletic enough to play all over the field. And that's the whole point. He has more value than other backup catchers even though he is 3rd string because he has talent as a hitter AND because he can play other positions which gets him in the lineup.

[Gregg]

That's quite a bit of hyperbole. Albert Pujols will never be put in CF. Pablo Sandoval will never be put in CF. More to the catcher point, Welington Castillo will never be put in CF. Evan Gattis will never be put in CF. Astudillo was. Because he can play there.

He's athletic enough to play all over the field. And that's the whole point. He has more value than other backup catchers even though he is 3rd string because he has talent as a hitter AND because he can play other positions which gets him in the lineup.

And maybe even get more abs than the real back up catcher.

[Ken]

And maybe even get more abs than the real back up catcher.

Or the real starter.

Garver has 15 PA
Castro has 12 PA

Astudillo has 22 PA

[Hornsby]

That's quite a bit of hyperbole. Albert Pujols will never be put in CF. Pablo Sandoval will never be put in CF. More to the catcher point, Welington Castillo will never be put in CF. Evan Gattis will never be put in CF. Astudillo was. Because he can play there.

He's athletic enough to play all over the field. And that's the whole point. He has more value than other backup catchers even though he is 3rd string because he has talent as a hitter AND because he can play other positions which gets him in the lineup.

LOL...except he really isn't accomplished at ANY of those positions, including catcher...his bat is what gets him in the lineup, his glove is a necessary evil. And yeah, a 27 YO Pujols probably could have played an inning in center, as could any of the others that you mentioned. Just because Astudillo played 1 inning in CF does not make him an outfielder. Nor would an appearance at short make him a shortstop any more than Russel Martin pitching a successful inning makes him a pitcher.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this...

[Gregg]

LOL...except he really isn't accomplished at ANY of those positions, including catcher...his bat is what gets him in the lineup, his glove is a necessary evil. And yeah, a 27 YO Pujols probably could have played an inning in center, as could any of the others that you mentioned. Just because Astudillo played 1 inning in CF does not make him an outfielder. Nor would an appearance at short make him a shortstop any more than Russel Martin pitching a successful inning makes him a pitcher.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this...

We need 5 games for in season qualify. 20 games for keepers.

I will agree to disagree with you on this one. I think this is the first time we have ever disagreed on anything...ever.

[Hornsby]

Or the real starter.

Garver has 15 PA
Castro has 12 PA

Astudillo has 22 PA

According to Baseball Reference:

Garver 30 innings played at catcher
Castro 29 innings
Astudillo 21 innings