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    Three weeks out.

    My 16 team league will start declaring keepers and options around the 25th, ie three weeks. This coincides with Yahoo beginning its season. It's a H2H league with OBA and Holds.

    My tentative roster looks like this:

    C - Carson Kelly StL (26)
    1B - Paul Goldschmidt Ari (K)
    2B - Raul Adalberto Mondesi KC (w)
    3B - Matt Chapman (8)
    SS - Amed Rosario NYM (w)
    CI - Matt Olson Oak (5)
    MI -
    OF - Ronald Acuna Atl (K)
    OF - Christian Yelich Mil (K)
    OF - Víctor Robles Was (18)
    Util -

    SP - Robbie Ray Ari (6)
    SP - Jack Flaherty StL (18)
    SP - Shane Bieber Cle (w)
    SP -
    RP -
    RP -
    RP -
    P -
    P -

    BN - Scott Kingery or Teoscar Hernandez (12)
    BN - Brendan Rodgers Col - SS (13)
    BN - Luis Robert CWS - OF (24)
    BN - Shohei Ohtani - SP (21)

    The numbers indicate option rounds, thus

    Round 1*: Paul Goldschmidt
    Round 2*: Christian Yelich
    Round 3*: Ronald Acuna
    Round 4:
    Round 5: Matt Olson
    Round 6: Robbie Ray
    Round 7:
    Round 8: Matt Chapman
    Round 9:
    Round 10`: Scott Kingery or Teoscar Hernandez
    Round 11`: Adalberto Mondesi
    Round 12`: Amed Rosario
    Round 13`: Brendan Rodgers
    Round 14`: Shane Bieber
    Round 15`:
    Round 16`:
    Round 17`: Victor Robles
    Round 18: Jack Flaherty
    Round 19:
    Round 20:
    Round 21: Shohei Ohtani (SP)
    Round 22:
    Round 23:
    Round 24: Luis Robert
    Round 25:
    Round 26: Carson Kelly

    Note on round #10. I am using an available player to push back the round of Mondesi, Rosario and Bieber. This makes Mondesi and Rosario a round cheaper in 2020 and gives a whole extra year of control on Bieber.

    Figure the actual draft will start before the end of the month. What would your basic strategy be? The round #4 pick will be top 100-110. But rounds #7 and #9 are more like 160-ish and 200-ish due to the large number of players held on options, eg I am holding Jack Flaherty in round #17.

    SP tends to be premium in the draft while RP is somewhat discounted. I can get a useful player with the round #4 pick. #9, not so much unless it's a RP or a C.
    Goldschmidt is on the trade block. I have nibbles involving a SP ace and an elite OF.

    How would you approach the draft? Would you try for SP and then bullpen, seek to trade for pitching, go for top bullpen talent or go low rent on piching.

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    Does the Ohtani (SP) mean that you only have him as a pitcher? If so I think you have to trade him, your team is too good to carry a blank with that much value for a year. If you can't trade Ohtani for a strong SP I guess you have to draft one unless your league structure makes dumping SP a palatable option.
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    I have a hard time imagining using a pick that high (your #4) on RP when your SP needs so much work. Even if you could get a nice stabilizer there. I'd rather go SP, or I would strongly consider just taking the best available hitter and loading up on late round SPs. Unless a good SP happens to fall into your lap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joncarlos View Post
    I have a hard time imagining using a pick that high (your #4) on RP when your SP needs so much work. Even if you could get a nice stabilizer there. I'd rather go SP, or I would strongly consider just taking the best available hitter and loading up on late round SPs. Unless a good SP happens to fall into your lap.
    I'm with you. In a 6x6 I'd take the best hitter in r4. Hitters can contribute 6 categories, SP contribute in 4, RP contribute in ~3.

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    Yes. This is a Yahoo league and the idiots split Ohtani into hitter and pitcher. I have him at nearly no cost this year and can make a strong argument to owning the whole player if he is recombined.

    In round four I expect top pick 6th or 7th, so all the top 75 players will be gone. Last year 227 players were retained, including 86 of the top 100 and 124 of the top 150 by Yahoo rankings. Still, a player or SP in the #90-#110 range will be available. The 7th and 9th are good RP rounds. SP will be dicey by the 7th, but some closers may still be around and it's also a good place for MI and CI.

    Practical note: Consider rounds 4,7,9 to be one year only. Prospect hunting begins in round #15. Flaherty was drafted round #21
    Trade note. There is a good chance I can get a top 10 SP for Goldschmidt.

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    Something I have available but I had not considered cost-effective is an option on Yu Darvish. It would cost my first pick, which seemed too high.

    However, I did some modeling and the pick would be 6th on a board like this. Numbers are by Austin Bristow. Both Paul Sporer and Pitcher List rank him the #33 SP, which is compatable with this board.

    Kenley Jansen 82
    Justin Turner 90
    Wil Myers 92
    Aroldis Chapman 97
    Nelson Cruz 100
    Dee Gordon 106
    Masahiro Tanaka 108
    Raisel Iglesias 111
    Robinson Canó 112
    Yu Darvish 117
    Willson Contreras 121
    Rougned Odor 123

    Given my other pitching, should I consider keeping Darvish as a one year SP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onejayhawk View Post
    Something I have available but I had not considered cost-effective is an option on Yu Darvish. It would cost my first pick, which seemed too high.

    However, I did some modeling and the pick would be 6th on a board like this. Numbers are by Austin Bristow. Both Paul Sporer and Pitcher List rank him the #33 SP, which is compatable with this board.

    Kenley Jansen 82
    Justin Turner 90
    Wil Myers 92
    Aroldis Chapman 97
    Nelson Cruz 100
    Dee Gordon 106
    Masahiro Tanaka 108
    Raisel Iglesias 111
    Robinson Canó 112
    Yu Darvish 117
    Willson Contreras 121
    Rougned Odor 123

    Given my other pitching, should I consider keeping Darvish as a one year SP?

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    Who would you be giving up? I'm not a huge Darvish fan personally, but if the cost is ONLY your 1st pick, maybe? I dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joncarlos View Post
    Who would you be giving up? I'm not a huge Darvish fan personally, but if the cost is ONLY your 1st pick, maybe? I dunno.
    Correct, it is only my pick from that board as depleted.

    I am leaning to keeping the pick. Odor I would prefer, Cano I can handle, and both give me needed depth. Assuming Turner is gone, I have a good chance of taking Darvish anyway. If not, I can live with Nelson Cruz or Raisel Iglesias for a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onejayhawk View Post
    Correct, it is only my pick from that board as depleted.

    I am leaning to keeping the pick. Odor I would prefer, Cano I can handle, and both give me needed depth. Assuming Turner is gone, I have a good chance of taking Darvish anyway. If not, I can live with Nelson Cruz or Raisel Iglesias for a year.

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    Who are the next few SPs after that group? I don't see the upside in locking yourself into Darvish with that projected first round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onejayhawk View Post
    Correct, it is only my pick from that board as depleted.

    I am leaning to keeping the pick. Odor I would prefer, Cano I can handle, and both give me needed depth. Assuming Turner is gone, I have a good chance of taking Darvish anyway. If not, I can live with Nelson Cruz or Raisel Iglesias for a year.

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    I would Odor or Cruz with that pick before Darvish.

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