*** VD 13 Commentary Thread ***

[DMT]

To be clear, when I say stuck in a certain time, I'm thinking of that scene at the end of Superman 2 where Zod and his cronies are flying through the universe in that weird parallelogram. That's how I think of the Smashing Pumpkins. Forever flying through the 90's.

Bald Billy does bear a striking resemblance to General Zod.

[Kevin Seitzer]

Ours was a total trainwreck.

Don't use that word while Feral is riding the rails.

[Bene Futuis]

Sorry, I've been a little busy fixing some stuff but, I can confirm that the allegations that I am Michael Cohen are fake news.

Oh shit. He's here! Everyone --- look busy!

[Bene Futuis]

To be clear, when I say stuck in a certain time, I'm thinking of that scene at the end of Superman 2 where Zod and his cronies are flying through the universe in that weird parallelogram. That's how I think of the Smashing Pumpkins. Forever flying through the 90's.

Smashing Pumpkins have the widest variance of any band ever between their awesome (Gish) songs and their awful (everything after Siamese Dreams) songs.

[heyelander]

Hey Chris... my parents are headed down to the Q in May. My dad's been down there a number of times to check out native American ruins and petroglyphs. I know you majored in archeology dso I thought I would ask if you knew of any cool off the beaten track places to check out. They are in their 70s but in decent shape so light to moderate effort would be good.

bump in case you missed it.

[DMT]

Smashing Pumpkins have the widest variance of any band ever between their awesome (Gish) songs and their awful (everything after Siamese Dreams) songs.

Jefferson Airplane says hello ("White Rabbit" to "We Built this City"). And Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was excellent as well.

[The Feral Slasher]

Sorry, I've been a little busy fixing some stuff but, I can confirm that the allegations that I am Michael Cohen are fake news.

Sounds an awful lot like Michael Cohen's response when I asked him if he was umjewman.

[Bene Futuis]

bump in case you missed it.

I did miss it! There is an overabundance of amazing archaeology in this area. I'd recommend the old Cochiti ruins and Cochiti pueblo (about 1/2 hour north of Albuquerque on the way to Santa Fe). I assume they've been to Chaco Canyon and Bandelier National Monument, but if not those are some of the greatest archaeological sites in the whole country. The Maxwell Museum located on the University of New Mexico campus is top notch. Petroglyph National Monument is pretty neat and right next to town. For amazing non-archaeological sightseeing, I'd recommend Tent Rocks, also located on the way up to Santa Fe.


Tent Rocks:

[Bene Futuis]

Jefferson Airplane says hello ("White Rabbit" to "We Built this City"). And Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was excellent as well.

Agreed re: Jefferson Starplaneship. I thought Mellon Collie was garbage, personally, but that's just personal taste I suppose.

[heyelander]

I did miss it! There is an overabundance of amazing archaeology in this area. I'd recommend the old Cochiti ruins and Cochiti pueblo (about 1/2 hour north of Albuquerque on the way to Santa Fe). I assume they've been to Chaco Canyon and Bandelier National Monument, but if not those are some of the greatest archaeological sites in the whole country. The Maxwell Museum located on the University of New Mexico campus is top notch. Petroglyph National Monument is pretty neat and right next to town. For amazing non-archaeological sightseeing, I'd recommend Tent Rocks, also located on the way up to Santa Fe.

cool beans, I'll pass it all along. thanks!

[The Feral Slasher]

Tent Rocks:

Personally i think I'd prefer somewhere softer and flatter to pitch a tent. But they are beautiful !







I think I went to Bandelier 20 years ago when I visited Santa Fe/Taos. Should try to get down there again

[umjewman]

Sounds an awful lot like Michael Cohen's response when I asked him if he was umjewman.

What a strange coincidence!

[johnnya24]

It's interesting how certain bands manage to transcend their era and others seem stuck in that certain time forever. The latter often has to do with production. I think of the Smashing Pumpkins as very much stuck in the 90's but I know others disagree.

Good time to get stuck I'd say. Unless of course your're visiting the Neverland ranch.

[johnnya24]

I did miss it! There is an overabundance of amazing archaeology in this area. I'd recommend the old Cochiti ruins and Cochiti pueblo (about 1/2 hour north of Albuquerque on the way to Santa Fe). I assume they've been to Chaco Canyon and Bandelier National Monument, but if not those are some of the greatest archaeological sites in the whole country. The Maxwell Museum located on the University of New Mexico campus is top notch. Petroglyph National Monument is pretty neat and right next to town. For amazing non-archaeological sightseeing, I'd recommend Tent Rocks, also located on the way up to Santa Fe.


Tent Rocks:

Breathe In Breathe Out song aka Machinehead ... it's about his dick and weird sex right ... or he just really likes his guitar knobs?

[DMT]

Agreed re: Jefferson Starplaneship. I thought Mellon Collie was garbage, personally, but that's just personal taste I suppose.

It's not on the same level as Siamese Dream, but I think it's aged well. And I agree about them falling off a cliff just disagree about the timing.