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    Quote Originally Posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
    Had to look it up, but he managed here 1993-2002, the best years of Seattle baseball.
    And it's not particularly close.

    The three managers with the most wins in Mariners history are Pinella, Service, and Lou Lefebvre.

    Pinella's teams went 840-711. Service 438-432, and Lefebvre 233-253.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    And it's not particularly close.

    The three managers with the most wins in Mariners history are Pinella, Service, and Lou Lefebvre.

    Pinella's teams went 840-711. Service 438-432, and Lefebvre 233-253.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    And it's not particularly close.

    The three managers with the most wins in Mariners history are Pinella, Service, and Lou Lefebvre.

    Pinella's teams went 840-711. Service 438-432, and Lefebvre 233-253.
    Interesting. I guess I had in my head that he was more like Larry Dierker as Astros manager than like Bobby Cox as Braves manager. Nearly everyone in the Atlanta metro would know Cox and think of him fondly, but you'd have to be a real baseball nut to recognize Dierker in Houston.

    Timeframe-wise, Piniella is more comparable to Dierker, but I hadn't thought of the success angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Seitzer View Post
    Interesting. I guess I had in my head that he was more like Larry Dierker as Astros manager than like Bobby Cox as Braves manager. Nearly everyone in the Atlanta metro would know Cox and think of him fondly, but you'd have to be a real baseball nut to recognize Dierker in Houston.

    Timeframe-wise, Piniella is more comparable to Dierker, but I hadn't thought of the success angle.
    He immediately comes to mind when I think about the Mariner's manager. Akin to Cox for the Braves, that's a good example.

    And Pinella didn't just have the longevity, that 2001 team was historically good.

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    Speaking of Mariners, on this day in 2013 Justin Upton, then of the Dbacks, vetoed a trade that would have sent him to the Ms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    He immediately comes to mind when I think about the Mariner's manager. Akin to Cox for the Braves, that's a good example.

    And Pinella didn't just have the longevity, that 2001 team was historically good.
    On the last day of the season the Mariners were trying to set the record for most wins in a season against the Texas Rangers if my memory is correct. My friend and I went to the Mariners store and rode the elevator up into the stadium without tickets to watch the last inning. Unfortunately they didn't get it done.
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    It would be an interesting exercise to come up with the most iconic manager for current fans of each of the 30 franchises.

    ATL - Bobby Cox
    SEA - Lou Piniella

    For example, would Dodgers still be Tommy Lasorda, or has Dave Roberts' run of success vaulted him to the top for current fans?
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    For the Astros, I think it would be A.J. Hinch surpassing Phil Garner and Larry Dierker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Seitzer View Post
    It would be an interesting exercise to come up with the most iconic manager for current fans of each of the 30 franchises.

    ATL - Bobby Cox
    SEA - Lou Piniella

    For example, would Dodgers still be Tommy Lasorda, or has Dave Roberts' run of success vaulted him to the top for current fans?
    Gotta be Lasorda.

    I agree it would be an interesting exercise.

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    For the Royals, I assume Ned Yost takes the top spot for the two World Series trips, as well as for recency and longevity, surpassing the previous winning managers Dick Howser and Whitey Herzog. Herzog can't really be it because he defected to the hated Cardinals.
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