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    Quote Originally Posted by fuhrdog View Post
    Serious question...other than Biden, which Dems that ran against Biden for the nomination do you think would have also won against Trump if they were the nominee?
    Bernie without a doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    I think if you told Democratic voters they had to fight really hard for Biden to win by just enough to not be able to do anything other than work with Republicans to pass Republican priorities, they'd call that a raw deal.
    I think if you told any Democratic voters that they could get Trump out, BUT..... they'd stop you and say I don't give a shit about what you are about to say, I'm in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revo View Post
    Biden won 306-232. He leads by 6 million votes. Everyone doubted him. He held up his end of the bargain.
    The media should troll Trump and report 322 electoral votes for Biden since he won Georgia twice lol.

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    Team Trump lol.


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    Ha, I love seeing actors and other celebs come out against these morons. Some are very well known anti-Trump trollers (Morgan Freeman, Rob Reiner, Richard Marx, Jon Cryer to name a few) but I love seeing some I was unaware of. For those of you who don't know, Antony Starr plays the anti-superman Homelander on "The Boys."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    Losing down-ballot wasn't "part of the bargain." I think if you told Democratic voters they had to fight really hard for Biden to win by just enough to not be able to do anything other than work with Republicans to pass Republican priorities, they'd call that a raw deal.
    On this one, I'll have to disagree with you. Yes, Biden's coat tails did almost nothing. But if you want to point blame at people for the down-ballot failures, the DNC should be square in your sights. Along with a few well-funded 403c groups. The DNC once again, in their high-handed arrogance, ignored local direction and desires, and treated every down-ballot election with the same playbook. It's the football equivalent of playing the Packers, Vikings, Chargers, and 49ers in succession and using the same defensive scheme against all four. Same for a number of those 403c sites. What may work in suburban DC and Philly will not likely work in suburban Miami, for example.
    I'm just here for the baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    I think if you told any Democratic voters that they could get Trump out, BUT..... they'd stop you and say I don't give a shit about what you are about to say, I'm in.
    This.
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    I am confident that Biden was uniquely the one who needed to be up against trump for dems to pull out win. And even so, trump grew support from hispanic community, selling the silly scare line dems are socialist and you know how that rings in ears coming from latin american countries with actual strongman leaders. It is an easy tag to carry as a repub hit piece and throw at whatever dem, when the antidote is to point out dems support social programs as in a safety net so we dont have blood in street from desperately poor in time of historic wealth accumulation by a handful of people. The vast majority of people support social programs, but how to sell it so it is a positive rather than a scare tactic.

    Imagine if candidate were bernie, then it would not have been a mere loss to say the cuban pop in miami who feared the socialist boogeyman, it would have been a massacre, as it would be a vastly easier sell of this sanders is a socialist rather than biden. Or say warren, who never had near the support of poc that biden had, imagine the level of loss. Mayor pete, who is awesome, I think it would be something to have an actual super bright person in their prime in highest office, but imagine the loss in bible belt who would 100% vote against the gay guy.

    We have Biden as the bridge candidate, and there will be absolute nutjobs who will cling to hunter biden non story, so obviously false that even fox news abandoned the push of the gulliani unearthed mess of a story. I am not thrilled that Biden will most probably have the same mitch blockade in senate to get much done. But there will still be plenty that can be done, including rejoining the world stage as non crazy participants.

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    Georgia certified Biden's win, so hopefully this puts to bed Trump's attempt to destroy democracy as we know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revo View Post
    Georgia certified Biden's win, so hopefully this puts to bed Trump's attempt to destroy democracy as we know it.
    Not a chance.
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