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    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    The org Mook founded took money to develop the app. I have no clue what Mook's role was other than what's been reported. Fair?
    No, not fair. Based on your links, the organization Mook founded was brought in to provide "campaign expert" consulting, as one component of a wider group that included experts in cybersecurity, national security and election administration, as part of the risk-testing/vetting of the app. That is not remotely "developing the app".

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-Fly View Post
    Yeah, I'm not really buying shares in the "DNC got caught cheating" narrative. I've been in government too long to think this is anything other than inadvertent errors combined with fear of errors. I hate that it will feed into a deeper mistrust of the process when the aim was greater transparency. The media was in the locations watching all the counts and the realignments, as were representatives from every one of the campaigns.

    Ultimately, I do believe that the Sanders team's internal numbers are probably pretty close to accurate, and hopefully will gel with the official counts later today.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/02/04/...owa-buttigieg/
    ... not a comment about this particular incident, but I've said this more times than I can count ... I've always been stunned that the same people who blame government for being incompetent bumbling idiots also think we're able to mastermind (and keep secret!) some of craziest shit that happens.
    I've seen what's behind the curtain ... we're not that good.
    It certainly feels that way. But I'm distrustful of that feeling and am curious about evidence.
    Some people think he's playing chess when actually his aides are trying to stop him from eating the pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TranaGreg View Post
    ... not a comment about this particular incident, but I've said this more times than I can count ... I've always been stunned that the same people who blame government for being incompetent bumbling idiots also think we're able to mastermind (and keep secret!) some of craziest shit that happens.
    I've seen what's behind the curtain ... we're not that good.
    Exactly. We cannot remotely pull off the sh!t people think we pull off, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    My wife has never been convinced that Bernie has a solid record of speaking about black issues without connecting those issues to other communities. He clearly doesn't engage in rhetoric about black empowerment without providing policies for the context in which he's talking.

    I guess it's time to simply admit that Bernie may not be perfect in representing exactly what each voter wants. I wish he would talk more about electoral reforms, paper ballots, etc, among many other things. I wish he didn't support the dairy lobby, I wish he didn't apologize for Zephyr Teachout's Biden corruption piece, lots of points of disagreement. But at the end of the day, Bernie is by far less problematic on race than any of Pete, Biden, or Warren. Could he be better speaking on race? Absolutely. Could he be better about speaking to the material conditions which exacerbate the impoverishment and degradation of black people? I don't think he could. He speaks about clean water in Flint, about raising the minimum wage, black student debt loads tackled through debt relief and free college, legalizing marijuana, expunging marijuana convictions, further criminal justice reform, black mother mortality rates, etc. He does have the platform to inspire black voters, but as Feral Slasher says, he does better letting black leaders speak to those issues than doing so himself. Nina Turner, Cornel West, Killer Mike, etc. Even my wife admits that despite these issues of rhetoric on race, he's still clearly the best candidate. So I guess it comes down to how much you ding him for the blind spot. Is it worth withholding a vote?
    You guys realize that reporting on the DNC secrecy surrounding the voting app was happening a week ago, right? Here's proof I knew we would see DNC fuckery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-Fly View Post
    Exactly. We cannot remotely pull off the sh!t people think we pull off, lol.
    You would never admit to DNC rigging 2016 in multiple ways, so I cant trust your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    You would never admit to DNC rigging 2016 in multiple ways, so I cant trust your opinion.
    You only trust people who think DNC rigged 2016 in multiple ways? Man, that's a lonely life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    You only trust people who think DNC rigged 2016 in multiple ways? Man, that's a lonely life.
    On the issue of DNC corruption?

    Yeah, I think folks with their head so far up their ass that it's dark shouldn't be taken seriously on this current issue of DNC fuckery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    You would never admit to DNC rigging 2016 in multiple ways, so I cant trust your opinion.
    Ooookay. I don't have any and have never had any connection to or involvement with the DNC or any political campaign. I'm just a local government drone, lol, but one experienced enough to know how darn near impossible it would be to pull off the kind of conspiracy you're suggesting, here.

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    lol

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    "Hi, I'm Bernie Sanders. I'm an Independent running under the guise of a Democrat, so I can have a broader reach. The DNC has developed an app for the Iowa Caucus, but I am so distrustful that I have created my own independent app. Please trust my results."



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