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    The progressive left is in despair. I would be, but I'm kind of over it given that I already enjoy most of the things your country declares impossible. I mean, we just banned 1500 styles of assault rifles. It's a pretty good time up here to be honest. However, you guys are super fucked, whichever mentally unstable sexual predator wins. Maybe Biden loses and AOC runs in '24, but it's a lotta pain coming whatever happens now.

    This is a devastatingly harsh analysis of the current state of the political left. I'm sure most here would find it enjoyable, if you're into shitting on progressives. At one point, the right winger compares the level of irrelevance between Libertarians on the right and Progressives on the left. Makes me wanna puke, haha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by revo View Post
    Latest Quinnipiac poll has Biden up by ELEVEN nationally, 50-39. That’s the biggest lead by Biden in any national poll since he became the presumptive nominee. For an incumbent to be behind by this much with just 5 months left to go, well, not sure I want to jink it.
    How do you guys think voting will go in November? With the right wing holding 'end the lockdown' rallies, and Trump voters fanaticism, do you really think enough Biden voters will be willing to go and vote and risk getting the virus during the peak of the Covid 2nd wave? He's done much worse at uniting Bernie voters than Hillary did, so the under 45 vote which Biden lost entirely to Sanders will be out building communes and/or not see any difference between them, or actively despise the compulsive lying, grab-em-by-the-pussy senile prick wearing a D and stay home. I think your optimism is highly misplaced. I'm almost tempted to do a further avatar bet, I'm so convinced he'll lose.

    These polls are the same numbers HRC had going into the home stretch in '16, and Biden is a disaster in comparison. I don't think its gonna be pretty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
    Ted Cruz?
    Different animal but itís hard for me to quantify exactly why. Heís arrogant and deeply unlikeable by most folks, but heís smart enough to know heís not a witch or condone legitimate rapes. Cruz can make an intelligent argument even if you donít agree with it. Sharon Angle canít.
    Poor job explaining by me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post

    These polls are the same numbers HRC had going into the home stretch in '16, and Biden is a disaster in comparison. I don't think its gonna be pretty.
    FWIW, Clinton was actually +18 in May, 2016 Quinnipiac poll as you can see here (it’s the first poll listed):
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...491.html#polls
    As you see, it did tighten fairly quickly shortly after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nots View Post
    Different animal but it’s hard for me to quantify exactly why. He’s arrogant and deeply unlikeable by most folks, but he’s smart enough to know he’s not a witch or condone legitimate rapes. Cruz can make an intelligent argument even if you don’t agree with it. Sharon Angle can’t.
    Poor job explaining by me.
    I was being felicitous, trying to draw out 1jay but I appreciate the sincere response!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nots View Post
    FWIW, Clinton was actually +18 in May, 2016 Quinnipiac poll as you can see here (itís the first poll listed):
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...491.html#polls
    As you see, it did tighten fairly quickly shortly after that.
    According to this link, Trump led in four of the five polls for this same timeframe in May 2016.

    The Quinnipiac poll youíre referring to, which is the first one listed, is for May 2015.

    Doesnít really matter, Clinton regained a large lead the next month.

    The big difference, of course, with the 2016 election is that one person is now an incumbent, whereas neither were then.

    For an incumbent president to be in the polling position Trump is in now is nearly unprecedented (not unpresidented, lol).

    And the economic data will only get worse by Election Day. Q3 data comes out after the election.

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    Good catch on the year— I misread that.
    Still too early to be spiking the football imo..

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    Quote Originally Posted by revo View Post
    According to this link, Trump led in four of the five polls for this same timeframe in May 2016.

    The Quinnipiac poll you’re referring to, which is the first one listed, is for May 2015.

    Doesn’t really matter, Clinton regained a large lead the next month.

    The big difference, of course, with the 2016 election is that one person is now an incumbent, whereas neither were then.

    For an incumbent president to be in the polling position Trump is in now is nearly unprecedented (not unpresidented, lol).

    And the economic data will only get worse by Election Day. Q3 data comes out after the election.
    So he has the same approval rating now or slightly higher than it was the day he was elected. It was unprecedented that he won the first time being so unpopular. But now he holds all of the strutural advantages derived from being the incumbant. You better believe he's going to use every trick in the book, voter suppression, intimidation, etc.

    Given what a piece of shit Trump has been for 4 years, the fact that the polls are much the same, while Trump has consolidated his base and Biden hasn't, that's terrifying to me. Trump should be polling under 10% approval right now. He has been as low as 35-40% approval at times, but he's consistently bumped up to the 45-50% range. Those metrics don't scare you?

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    Michael Flynn, Michael Cohen, Russian collusion, Mueller, the impeachment...

    The walls are closing in... over and over and over. I just googled it and came up with literally dozens of CNN clips of different anchors with the same refrain "the walls are closing in". We've seen the equivalent of the end of the Jason movie where they dismember and bury him, time after time, only to see him come back stronger.

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    No one is spiking ball, but this is not last cycle, at all.

    Without trying too hard, one should be able to point to a hundred reasons trump is in much weaker position this go around. No one has won an election after being impeached. No one has been re-elected when having never even touched a 50% positive favorable rating. While last run trump was against someone with historically poor likeability, he is running against someone who nets positive in that regard, and very much resonates with average joe constituents.

    The biden negs are known and not deal breakers, and sex predator is not one of them. His female staff to a one, 62 of them over decades, describe him in glowing positive terms without a hint of the sex assault allegations that would be impossible for trump to shrug off if his 25 accusers were given as much time as reade. A WP article from couple years ago noted re: Biden "He is old, inarticulate, uninspiring and gaffe-prone. He doesn’t have a radical agenda." And? trump scores worse, the best ads that can be run against trump are simply idiotic and hateful things he said a day before. trump has proven out all that could go wrong when running an incompetent imbecile, incapable of absorbing facts that differ from his wishlist reality, with corrupt evil as guiding light.

    Biden will name a female running mate, and it wont be a palin level joke to dismiss. It will be of level of Klobuchar, or Kam Harris, or Warren. This is not last cycle, biden is way stronger position because we now know harm trump can do in office, and because trump will be going against someone with net positive likeability, and the wild card of strong economy will not be the helping hand trump was needing it to be, despite all the free money he has doled out to business and the 1%ers.

    BTW, anyone catch the news that if trump had taken covid 19 seriously a month earlier and encouraged california type lockdown it would have saved 36k+ lives? Biden wrote an op-ed on January 27 warning that Trump had left the country unprepared to handle the coronavirus outbreak, and proposing steps to counter it. I mean anything that could be a trump strength, Biden is better, and anything that is a Biden weakness, trump has an even more exposed issues. The one thing that is troubling is dems propensity to circular fire squad while repubs will lockstep with a monster because they can comfort themselves with SC appointments or pro life as justification.

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