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    Quote Originally Posted by baldgriff View Post
    There is no way that the Dems run Biden as the Pres. candidate. They are a fast moving train that is rolling left left left........ There will be no moderate voice there. When people like Michael Moore say Ocasio-Cortez should be "the Democrats Leader" they are telling the Dems flat out - keep moving left left left. Nope Bidens days as an option are long long gone.
    This seems like a wish fulfillment fantasy for someone who thinks a far left dem and trump could lead to a 3rd party candidate having a chance in hell. Because we all know all Dem voters simply vote however Michael Moore and whatever others make up the "they" in your statement tells them to.

    I'm not saying a democratic socialist candidate can't win the nom, but your proclamation that a centrist like Biden cannot win is just silly and seems to come from the same place where you find info suggesting Dems all want to make the world safe for pedophiles and abort babies minutes from being born. Lots of different folks in the Dem tent. Polling suggest there is still a lot of support for Biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onejayhawk View Post
    I disagree. Democrats have a long history of pulling down front-runners. I don't know who will come out of the pack, but I am confident there will be someone.

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    I actually agree with your first claim that Dems have a history of pulling down frontrunners, although HRC is recent evidence that isn't always the case. If your second claim is that a far left candidate will definitely emerge, then I don't think that is certain at all. Also, Biden could delay announcing longer, which I think would help his chances.

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    I think there's no way in hell Biden DOESN'T get the nod. He's the only candidate, as of today, consistently beating Trump in every state recorded so far. In Iowa, as of today, Biden has a 2 pt lead over Trump in a state Trump won by 10 in 2016. Add Harris or O'Rourke to the ballot, and that's a pretty damn good ticket.

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    "I think there's no way in hell Biden DOESN'T get the nod."

    two years after Donald Trump is elected President, and.......
    wtf

    and I'm not even counting Biden dying, ill, terrorist event or anything like that.

    so a healthy Biden, no world event. still, the guy is a walking malaprop, with a ton of weaponalizable TV footage against him already out there - fair or not - and he will have new ones up on a tee next year.

    Biden has an impressive resume, but he also is dragging a TON of very very problematic skeletons around from his past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge Jude View Post
    "I think there's no way in hell Biden DOESN'T get the nod."

    two years after Donald Trump is elected President, and.......
    wtf

    and I'm not even counting Biden dying, ill, terrorist event or anything like that.

    so a healthy Biden, no world event. still, the guy is a walking malaprop, with a ton of weaponalizable TV footage against him already out there - fair or not - and he will have new ones up on a tee next year.

    Biden has an impressive resume, but he also is dragging a TON of very very problematic skeletons around from his past.
    Except to the extent he's blessed with an opponent with worse malapropos, worse skeletons and worse weaponizable footage, lol. If the country is choosing between two old white men who say crazy crap, then presumably the old, white and saying crazy crap factors are a wash and it actually comes down to policy preferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nots View Post
    She's really no better than that woman who faked being black to work for the NAACP. This will be an incredible distraction and IMO this should hopefully terminate her chances of being nominated. Dems can't have her vs. Trump, it would be disastrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge Jude View Post
    "I think there's no way in hell Biden DOESN'T get the nod."

    two years after Donald Trump is elected President, and.......
    wtf

    and I'm not even counting Biden dying, ill, terrorist event or anything like that.

    so a healthy Biden, no world event. still, the guy is a walking malaprop, with a ton of weaponalizable TV footage against him already out there - fair or not - and he will have new ones up on a tee next year.

    Biden has an impressive resume, but he also is dragging a TON of very very problematic skeletons around from his past.
    so genuine question from an outsiders perspective - why would skeletons matter anymore? hasn't the dynamic shifted to where a party's base doesn't care? or do you think Trump with his past is an aberration & things will go back to the way they used to be? my sense is that what makes for a successful candidate is very different now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-Fly View Post
    Except to the extent he's blessed with an opponent with worse malapropos, worse skeletons and worse weaponizable footage, lol. If the country is choosing between two old white men who say crazy crap, then presumably the old, white and saying crazy crap factors are a wash and it actually comes down to policy preferences.
    I was with you until you said "policy preferences" ... I was thinking it actually comes down to who's perceived to be less dangerous (to the country)

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    I was unaware that Biden was eligible for a bye into the Title Game. My comments were based on my perception that he would have to enter Democratic primaries.
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