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    Quote Originally Posted by swampdragon View Post
    Why do I think that's not very far from some people's reality...…………
    If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampdragon View Post
    not cool to Doxx me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
    Yes, 100%. That's my exact point. The focus shouldn't be on the person releasing a 4+ year old video featuring Bloomberg making these problematic and racist statements. Yes, the timing is "convenient", and Benjamin Dixon clearly has an agenda, but I'd much rather them be focusing on the statements that were made and how problematic they are than whether or not this is dirty politics.

    Of course - we're in the Trump regime so apparently being blatantly problematic matters a lot less than it used to.
    Apparently. It's hard to find an article from WAPO, NY Times or watch cable TV without finding a justification, explanation, or minimization of what he said. Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump have both taken heat for Bloomberg's racist comments. This is just a textbook case in propaganda.


    Edit. It appears the ny times at least has recently had an article or opionion piece that is critical of Bloomberg

    And fortunately he has his own media network to give his side of the story, which they claimed they wouldn't do :

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...sk-controversy
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    Quote Originally Posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
    OK, I've held off asking this because I sincerely doubt I'll get any answers only None of your business type Reponses.

    All of you guys opposing Sanders.

    What is your combined household annual income?

    Do you have healthcare and if so, how good is it and how much does it cost you a month?

    Do you have savings/401K with enough to cover say an emergency expense of $1000?

    Did you attend/graduate college and if so, how did you pay for it--are you still paying for it?

    Do you own your home? More than 1 property?

    I only ask this because I have to believe those opposing Sanders and those in his camp come from different fiscal realities--Now I may be wrong, but I can't imagine anyone living in my wheelhouse ever opposing someone like Sanders.

    I'll go first (but I'm not opposed to Sanders) in the interest of fair play and full disclosure.

    I work full time, my wife attends school full time (it will be this way for another 7ish years as she's going for her PHD.)

    I made 30K last year before taxes. My wife will be bringing in another 3-5K once she starts tutoring in the Fall. If we're lucky our annual income is 35K.

    I have insurance, it costs me $350 a month or 1/10th of my annual salary. My wife does not, she gets what she needs through school and sliding scale/free clinics. To cover her on my work plan would raise out total healthcare cost to $700+ a month.

    No saving, though we are trying to change that by working really hard on a budget that will allow us to save about 4-5K a year if we have no unforeseen expenses. less than 1K in my 401K (wife has none)

    I did, uses grants scholarships and loans, I still owe 50K in loans (100K with interest) Wife is attending using Grants and Scholarships (4.0 top of her class) but has still accrued 20K in loans--hoping the annual dependency on those is reduced as her scholarship amounts increase.

    We can fade an expense but it is really hard, 1K would be a killer--$500 is workable but makes it tight for a few months after.

    Not a home owner, nor any other fiscal assets. before I'm asked, our entire monthly bill amount (utilities, car, insurance, rent etc.) is $2K and that's with Rent being $1500

    We live a happy healthy lifestyle and are really lucky in our minds.

    I can't imagine anyone living a similar life being against Sanders and his policies.

    Again, I doubt I'll get many answers, but I have to imagine those opposing Sanders are doing much better financially and understandably don't want to risk what they have or the chance the economy might take a hit because his policies alienate the corporate barons and wealthy.

    Caveat--I am NOT doing this to illicit sympathy for my lot in life--I have an AMAZING life, very fortunate on many counts and have learned to live on a tight budget--Sanders or no sanders my life won't change much.

    Thanks for your indulgence.

    Edit. BTW, If Sanders is elected and IF every policy he's touting is implemented day one it won't really affect my life in any significant manner outside of my Wife having healthcare and not incurring any more debt while getting her bachelors degree.
    I already disclosed i am a billionaire. The rest is just details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
    I already disclosed i am a billionaire. The rest is just details.
    How Trumpish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
    I already disclosed i am a billionaire. The rest is just details.
    Isn't the fact that you are a billionaire just a detail too? You could have summarized better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-Fly View Post
    Yeah, that's pretty much my family and my wife's family as well, but I'm not sure they have any real sense of what will move voters in swing states to come out and vote out Trump. I'm not entirely sure any of us do.
    I hope someone does
    I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
    I already disclosed i am a billionaire. The rest is just details.
    cripes, I'm glad I let you pick up dinner
    I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyelander View Post
    crepes, I'm glad I let you pick up dinner
    Crepes for dinner? You should have held out for more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Crepes for dinner? You should have held out for more.
    If he had more he would have been full of crepe

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