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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbirds Fan View Post
    The question I have is whether she is actually running as a Democrat.
    Pretty silly question. She has always run as a Democrat in Hawaii (unlike Sanders who has run as an independent in Vt). The DNC thought enough of her Democratic street cred to make her Vice Chair in 2016, a position that they probably wouldn’t award to a non-Democrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nots View Post
    Pretty silly question. She has always run as a Democrat in Hawaii (unlike Sanders who has run as an independent in Vt). The DNC thought enough of her Democratic street cred to make her Vice Chair in 2016, a position that they probably wouldn’t award to a non-Democrat.
    2016 was a lifetime ago in politics. (And the DNC made a lot of mistakes in 2016, anyway.)

    Her actions since then throw her bona fides into doubt, IMO. Stated differently, is she a DINO?

    I haven't trusted her since the beginning. The fact that she seems to be the darling of the RJ right does little to help her cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbirds Fan View Post
    2016 was a lifetime ago in politics. (And the DNC made a lot of mistakes in 2016, anyway.)

    Her actions since then throw her bona fides into doubt, IMO. Stated differently, is she a DINO?

    I haven't trusted her since the beginning. The fact that she seems to be the darling of the RJ right does little to help her cause.
    Here’s an article:
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...x-for-the-left
    Note the endorsements by the Sierra Club, Planned Parenthood, the AFL-CIO, National Nurses United etc.
    A lot of far left folks are mad she met with Trump in the first few days of his taking office. Not enough #Resistance I guess. Really hate to see when anyone tries to reach across the aisle.
    Others are mad she met With Al-Assad. Most are mad that she represents a threat to the Military Industrail Complex both parties are so indebted to. I hope she runs a credible enough campaign that she can pull the eventual nominee away from a pro-military agenda but I have my doubts.

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    Here is another article about Gabbard, discussing her history on LGBT issues, anti-Islam rhetoric, and other foreign policy issues:
    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/t...mocratic-party

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    Julian Castro officially throws his hat into the ring.

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    Yeah, gotta say that the apparent support for Assad and the Syrian policies doesn't make me particularly comfortable.

    Nor does a pretty overt support by Steve Bannon in an attempt to lure her to Trump's administration fill me with confidence. I'll take a pass...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OaklandA's View Post
    Here is another article about Gabbard, discussing her history on LGBT issues, anti-Islam rhetoric, and other foreign policy issues:
    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/t...mocratic-party

    It's funny how if someone links to a Jacobin article criticizing Hillary, Obama or a Centrist Dem you can be sure that the usual suspects will come in with the tired comments about it being Socialist website, an "opinion" piece, not even an article, etc. But if someone links a Jacobin article criticizing a Dem outcast they are all on board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornsby View Post
    Yeah, gotta say that the apparent support for Assad and the Syrian policies doesn't make me particularly comfortable.

    Nor does a pretty overt support by Steve Bannon in an attempt to lure her to Trump's administration fill me with confidence. I'll take a pass...
    Meeting with Assad doesn't mean she supports him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
    It's funny how if someone links to a Jacobin article criticizing Hillary, Obama or a Centrist Dem you can be sure that the usual suspects will come in with the tired comments about it being Socialist website, an "opinion" piece, not even an article, etc. But if someone links a Jacobin article criticizing a Dem outcast they are all on board.
    Well, most of the article is direct quotes from her and it certainly isn't a reassuring profile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMT View Post
    Well, most of the article is direct quotes from her and it certainly isn't a reassuring profile.
    But it's from a Socialist publication !!!!!!!! So even if it's factually accurate you know its slanted and cherry picked. At least the links i posted from Jacobin were.

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