Robert Mueller investigation

[onejayhawk]

I am not even remotely a Trump fan, but I would be very disappointed in whoever proffered such a deal. "Duly elected President, if you step down from your position, we will not prosecute your child... continue to serve the will of the people and we will send him to jail."

That's mild compared to what has been going on.

It's ironic that Cohen's closing remarks talk of not having a peaceful transition of power. As if we had one in 2017.

J

[heyelander]

I think that's the deal Trump will look to push for, as the POTUS is his only leverage.

I believe that the powers that be will look to avoid large scale embarrassment, and putting Trump in jail would be a national disaster for the image of the US. They will look to allow him to ride off into the sunset any way possible. Giving up POTUS in exchange for immunity seems like his only deal to make. Does anybody see an alternative to him leaving? He's a wannabe dictator, he only leaves if he gets something for it.

You've switched from trump stepping down to save his kid to stepping down to save himself. If there is proof of his wrong doing... it needs to come out, or there will be a constitutional crisis... he can't step down to hush it all.

[The Feral Slasher]

That's mild compared to what has been going on.

It's ironic that Cohen's closing remarks talk of not having a peaceful transition of power. As if we had one in 2017.

J

I remember digging a foxhole and setting up landmines. The battle was fierce in my neighborhood

[The Feral Slasher]

I think that's the deal Trump will look to push for, as the POTUS is his only leverage.

I believe that the powers that be will look to avoid large scale embarrassment, and putting Trump in jail would be a national disaster for the image of the US. They will look to allow him to ride off into the sunset any way possible. Giving up POTUS in exchange for immunity seems like his only deal to make. Does anybody see an alternative to him leaving? He's a wannabe dictator, he only leaves if he gets something for it.

So pushing the narrative that Trump is a puppet of Vladimir Putin - is that part of the same strategy of avoiding large scale embarrassment ? And I don't have much fears that he will try to hold onto power when he is impeached or voted out. He can't do that by himself and i have a hard time believing many of the powerful people who could make that happen are going to risk everything for Trump.

[onejayhawk]

I remember digging a foxhole and setting up landmines. The battle was fierce in my neighborhood

It has been non-stop fighting. Starting with impeachment talk was serious enough, but a special prosecutor is one of the big guns. Making him fully partisan was a particularly cheap trick.

J

[revo]

It has been non-stop fighting. Starting with impeachment talk was serious enough, but a special prosecutor is one of the big guns. Making him fully partisan was a particularly cheap trick.

J

LOL, what? You do realize that Mueller was appointed by Rod Rosenstein and no one else, correct? Last I checked, Rosenstein was a Dumpy appointee. Oh wait, lemme guess -- Dumpy had no idea Rosenstein would actually do the right thing and not be a blindly loyal lackey.

[senorsheep]

From all accounts I've read, Mueller has conducted a very credible investigation. I think fair-minded, sensible people will be able to trust in the validity of his findings, whatever they might be.

[nots]

From all accounts I've read, Mueller has conducted a very credible investigation. I think fair-minded, sensible people will be able to trust in the validity of his findings, whatever they might be.

I agree, but I think whichever team ‘loses’ in the investigation will whine that he is either a lifelong Republican protecting Trump, or was out to get Trump from the start. His findings won’t move the needle for either camp even a little bit.

[senorsheep]

I agree, but I think whichever team ‘loses’ in the investigation will whine that he is either a lifelong Republican protecting Trump, or was out to get Trump from the start. His findings won’t move the needle for either camp even a little bit.

No doubt. The opinions of fair-minded, sensible people are the only ones that interest me. It's become pretty easy for me to ignore the rest.

[TranaGreg]

No doubt. The opinions of fair-minded, sensible people are the only ones that interest me. It's become pretty easy for me to ignore the rest.

:clicksonlikebuttoneventhoughwedonthaveone:

[nots]

The opinions of fair-minded, sensible people are the only ones that interest me.

So, what are you doing in here then?

[senorsheep]

So, what are you doing in here then?

I was trying to figure out if I should keep Jake Arrieta, and I took a wrong turn.

[nullnor]

Well sir, we were going to this bingo parlor at the YMCA, well one thing led to another, and the instructions got all fouled up...

[Bernie Brewer]

I agree, but I think whichever team ‘loses’ in the investigation will whine that he is either a lifelong Republican protecting Trump, or was out to get Trump from the start. His findings won’t move the needle for either camp even a little bit.

This +1

[onejayhawk]

LOL, what? You do realize that Mueller was appointed by Rod Rosenstein and no one else, correct? Last I checked, Rosenstein was a Dumpy appointee. Oh wait, lemme guess -- Dumpy had no idea Rosenstein would actually do the right thing and not be a blindly loyal lackey.

You do know that Rosenstein is one of the signatures on the FISA applications, right? He's a partisan hack who tricked his newbie boss into stepping aside so he could play a dirty trick.

I agree, but I think whichever team ‘loses’ in the investigation will whine that he is either a lifelong Republican protecting Trump, or was out to get Trump from the start. His findings won’t move the needle for either camp even a little bit.

That's funny, since only one side is playing. If this wasn't out to get Trump, where is the investigation of Bill, Hillary and the Clinton Foundation's Russian connections? If this is about collusion with Russia, there are a number of clear ties to the Clinton campaign.

J