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    RHD's Latest Top 150 Roto Prospects ("Pre-BA League Top 20s" Version)

    BA will be posting their League Top 20 lists soon, probably this week, so I wanted to post a new list before then.

    Same spiel as usual: I generally follow BA's prospect eligibility requirements, which are <=130 MLB AB or <=50 MLB IP. Unlike BA tho, amateurs, unsigned draftees and foreign players are eligible. Also, while BA has a different IP limit for relievers (30 IP?), relievers are eligible as long as they dont have >50 IP. As usual, this is for roto, not 'real' baseball, so pitchers are downgraded some, catchers downgraded somewhat (unless they're elite prospects and their bat will play at any position), and actual closers are upgraded a lot, SB guys who project to get playing time get upgraded some, and guys who either currently are or project to soon be regulars can get upgraded quite a bit. Position listed is their current primary one to the best of my knowledge (correct me if I'm wrong), not the one they're likely to end up at.

    I havent yet but I'll do a Google doc w the list and post the link.

    1 Vladimir Guerrero 3B Tor 0 1
    2 Fernando Tatis SS SD 4 6
    3 Eloy Jimenez OF CHW 4 7
    4 Kyle Tucker OF Hou 6 10
    5 Victor Robles OF Was 3 8
    6 Bo Bichette SS Tor 3 9
    7 Royce Lewis SS Min 7 14
    8 Wander Franco SS TB 107 115
    9 Jo (Jordon) Adell OF LAA 16 25
    10 Brendan Rodgers SS Col 5 15
    11 Nick Senzel 2B Cin 1 12
    12 Alex Kirilloff OF Min 36 48
    13 Forrest Whitley SP Hou 8 21
    14 Michael Kopech SP CHW 2 16
    15 Jesus Luzardo SP Oak 13 28
    16 Taylor Trammell OF Cin 1 17
    17 Keston Hiura 2B Mil 28 45
    18 Mitch Keller SP Pit 2 20
    19 Austin Riley 3B Atl 0 19
    20 Yordan Alvarez OF Hou 30 50
    21 Luis Robert OF CHW 3 24
    22 MacKenzie Gore SP SD 0 22
    23 Alex Reyes SP StL -10 13
    24 Mike Soroka SP Atl 17 41
    25 Sixto Sanchez SP Phi 4 29
    26 Jesus Sanchez OF TB 0 26
    27 Luis Urias 2B SD 7 34
    28 Carter Kieboom SS Was 35 63
    29 Cristian Pache OF Atl 26 55
    30 Vidal Brujan 2B TB NA NR
    31 Brandon Marsh OF LAA 0 31
    32 Alex Verdugo OF LAD 1 33
    33 Ian Anderson SP Atl 24 57
    34 Chris Paddack SP SD 36 70
    35 Adrian Morejon SP SD 25 60
    36 Tyler O'Neill OF StL 7 43
    37 Willie Calhoun OF Tex 0 37
    38 Casey Mize SP Det 28 66
    39 Triston McKenzie SP Cle 22 61
    40 Estevan Florial OF NYY -1 39
    41 Justus Sheffield SP NYY 11 52
    42 Brendan McKay SP TB 0 42
    43 Kyle Wright SP Atl 13 56
    44 Andres Gimenez SS NYM 32 76
    45 Jarred Kelenic OF NYM 54 99
    46 Nolan Gorman SS StL NA NR
    47 Yusniel Diaz OF Bal 17 64
    48 Matt Manning SP Det 29 77
    49 Logan Allen SP SD 70 119
    50 Michel Baez SP SD -1 49
    51 Garrett Hampson SS Col 7 58
    52 Myles Straw OF Hou 73 125
    53 Nick Madrigal 2B CHW 12 65
    54 Corey Ray OF Mil 34 88
    55 Jahmai Jones 2B LAA -8 47
    56 Heliot Ramos OF SF -10 46
    57 Francisco Mejia C SD 11 68
    58 Brent Honeywell SP TB 39 97
    59 Seranthony Dominguez RP Phi 48 107
    60 Leodys Taveras OF Tex -33 27
    61 Brusdar Graterol SP Min 20 81
    62 Touki Toussaint SP Atl 16 78
    63 Luiz Gohara SP Atl -23 40
    64 Sandy Alcantara SP Mia 5 69
    65 Dylan Cease SP CHW 31 96
    66 Griffin Canning SP LAA 5 71
    67 Kolby Allard SP Atl -14 53
    68 Jon Duplantier SP Ari 12 80
    69 Jonathan India 3B Cin NA NR
    70 A.J. Puk SP Oak 28 98
    71 Hunter Greene SP Cin -48 23
    72 Austin Hays OF Bal -42 30
    73 Ke'Bryan Hayes 3B Pit 14 87
    74 Drew Waters OF Atl NA NR
    75 Khalil Lee OF KC 57 132
    76 Dazmon Cameron OF Det 9 85
    77 Peter Alonso 1B NYM 27 104
    78 Michael Chavis 3B Bos -5 73
    79 Christin Stewart OF Det -7 72
    80 Anthony Alford OF Tor -45 35
    81 Esteury Ruiz 2B SD 42 123
    82 Luis Garcia 3B Was NA NR
    83 Julio Pablo Martinez OF Tex -24 59
    84 Bryse Wilson SP Atl 34 118
    85 Alec Bohm 3B Phi 16 101
    86 Nick Gordon SS Min -24 62
    87 Jorge Mateo SS Oak -51 36
    88 Blake Rutherford OF CHW -2 86
    89 Ryan Mountcastle 3B Bal 5 94
    90 Anderson Espinoza SP SD 0 90
    91 Kevin Smith SS Tor NA NR
    92 Cedric Mullins OF Bal NA NR
    93 Brandon Lowe 2B TB NA NR
    94 Isaac Paredes SS Det NA NR
    95 Jeter Downs SS Cin NA NR
    96 Gavin Lux SS LAD NA NR
    97 Oneil Cruz 3B Pit NA NR
    98 Seuly Matias OF KC 8 106
    99 Corbin Burnes SP Mil -16 83
    100 Dane Dunning SP CHW -7 93
    101 Adonis Medina SP Phi NA NR
    102 Matthew Liberatore SP TB 46 148
    103 Dustin May SP LAD NA NR
    104 Corbin Martin SP Hou 17 121
    105 Nick Neidert SP Mia NA NR
    106 Josh Naylor 1B SD -1 105
    107 Colton Welker 3B Col 22 129
    108 Franklin Perez SP Det -34 74
    109 Ronny Mauricio SS NYM NA NR
    110 Wander Javier SS Min -21 89
    111 Albert Abreu SP NYY 33 144
    112 Travis Swaggerty OF Pit -12 100
    113 Brady Singer SP KC NA NR
    114 Hudson Potts 3B SD NA NR
    115 Monte Harrison OF Mia -31 84
    116 Nolan Jones 3B Cle NA NR
    117 D.L. Hall SP Bal NA NR
    118 Jose Suarez SP LAA NA NR
    119 Alex Faedo SP Det -27 92
    120 Enyel De Los Santos SP Phi NA NR
    121 Cal Quantrill SP SD -42 79
    122 Hans Crouse SP Tex 13 135
    123 Beau Burrows SP Det -28 95
    124 Bobby Bradley 1B Cle -7 117
    125 Randy Arozarena SS StL 2 127
    126 Tirso Ornelas OF SD 7 133
    127 Jeisson Rosario OF SD -3 124
    128 George Valera OF Cle NA NR
    129 Anderson Tejeda SS Tex NA NR
    130 Sean Reid-Foley SP Tor 11 141
    131 Yusei Kikuchi SP Japan 19 150
    132 Stephen Gonsalves SP Min -50 82
    133 Jonathan Loaisiga SP NYY NA NR
    134 Bubba (Derek) Thompson OF Tex 12 146
    135 Buddy Reed OF SD NA NR
    136 Shane Baz SP TB 0 136
    137 Calvin Mitchell OF Pit NA NR
    138 Lazaro Armenteros OF Oak NA NR
    139 Jasrado (Jazz) Chisholm SS Ari 6 145
    140 Brent Rooker OF Min NA NR
    141 Dakota Hudson SP StL NA NR
    142 Antonio Santillan SP Cin NA NR
    143 Justin Dunn SP NYM NA NR
    144 JoJo Romero SP Phi -4 140
    145 Luis Rengifo 2B LAA NA NR
    146 Elehuris Montero 3B StL NA NR
    147 Jose Siri OF Cin -21 126
    148 Keibert Ruiz C LAD -46 102
    149 Nate Pearson SP Tor -27 122
    150 Victor Victor Mesa OF FA-Cuba -1 149

    Lost Eligibility (20):
    Shohei Otani, Ronald Acuna, Gleyber Torres, Juan Soto, Austin Meadows, Willy Adames, Franklin Barreto, Ryan McMahon, Jake Bauers, Fernando Romero, Dustin Fowler, Chance Sisco, Jaime Barria, Freddy Peralta, Shane Bieber, Joey Lucchesi, Max Fried, Brett Phillips, Greg Allen, J.D. Davis

    Eligibles Dropped off (14):
    Kyle Lewis (#67), Alec Hansen (#75), Kevin Maitan (#91), Dennis Santana (#109), Yohander Mendez (#114), Chris Shaw (#116), David Peterson (#120), Jeren Kendall (#128), Alexander Canario (#134), Joey Wentz (#138), Jorge Guzman (#139), Luis Ortiz (#142), Luis Escobar (#143), Zack Collins (#147)

    New Additions (34):
    Vidal Brujan (#30), Nolan Gorman (#50), Jonathan India (#69), Drew Waters (#75), Luis Garcia (#83), Kevin Smith (#90), Cedric Mullins (#91), Brandon Lowe (#92), Isaac Paredes (#93), Jeter Downs (#94), Gavin Lux (#95), Oneil Cruz (#96), Adonis Medina (#101), Dustin May (#103), Nick Neidert (#105), Ronny Mauricio (#109), Brady Singer (#113), Hudson Potts (#114), Nolan Jones (#116), D.L. Hall (#117), Jose Suarez (#118), Enyel De Los Santos (#120), George Valera (#128), Anderson Tejeda (#129), Jonathan Loaisiga (#133), Buddy Reed (#135), Calvin Mitchell (#137), Lazaro Armenteros (#138), Brent Rooker (#140), Dakota Hudson (#141), Antonio Santillan (#142), Justin Dunn (#143), Luis Rengifo (#145), Elehuris Montero (#146)

    As always, comments are not only welcome but encouraged. Enjoy!

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    Great list, as always thanks for putting this together.

    A few quick thoughts based on my knowledge:

    1) I like the aggressive ranking of Franco. However I think for me he's going to be somewhere in the 20s. There's just so much variance for a 17yo, and the talent is so diverse in that low of a level that it's hard to judge. I do like the aggressive ranking though.
    2) As someone who follows the Rangers prospects closely I'm not buying in on Leody from a fantasy standpoint. I think he's much better long term as a mlb player than a fantasy asset. Much of his value is tied up in defense. I'd swap him with Bubba Thompson in this list personally.
    3) Similarly, JPM is likely being overvalued in the industry due to the bonus. I suspect his bonus was inflated due to Ohtani - TX had earmarked international $s for Ohtani and used them on JPM when they lost out on Ohtani. His price was unfairly inflated.
    4) Hans Crouse is a dude. Glad you ranked him on here (and he's far enough away that the ranking is appropriate, I'd put him right in that range too)
    5) Poor Willie Calhoun - the Rangers just aren't giving him much in terms of ABs. And he still doesn't have a defensive position. I'm dubious on his future prospects. Which is a big change because I really liked him as a fantasy prospect coming into the season.

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    I don't know where I'd put him, but I'm surprised Cavan Biggio doesn't make the list. Decent shot at a 30/20 year with over 100 walks in AA.
    In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjl View Post
    I don't know where I'd put him, but I'm surprised Cavan Biggio doesn't make the list. Decent shot at a 30/20 year with over 100 walks in AA.
    Kevin Smith, ranked 91st here, could have a similar profile in the Jay's system as a likely 3B (maybe Vlad moves to 1st in a couple years). Hes a level below Biggio, but 3 years younger... biggest difference is name sexiness. Biggio's kid gets a 10 for sexiness, Kevin Smith gets a 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    Kevin Smith gets a 0.
    Even after losing 50 pounds?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    Kevin Smith, ranked 91st here, could have a similar profile in the Jay's system as a likely 3B (maybe Vlad moves to 1st in a couple years). Hes a level below Biggio, but 3 years younger... biggest difference is name sexiness. Biggio's kid gets a 10 for sexiness, Kevin Smith gets a 0.
    He's only 15 months younger. And he has a way worse walk rate. But he does seem to have more scout cred; I think I've heard that Biggio isn't much of a fielder.
    In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjl View Post
    He's only 15 months younger. And he has a way worse walk rate. But he does seem to have more scout cred; I think I've heard that Biggio isn't much of a fielder.
    15 months is much closer than I remembered, thanks.

    I view Biggio's walk rate as a real life skill that will lead to middling batting average down the road. The three outcomes type like Schwarber has a cap on earnings because his approach keeps his BA down. Big value jump for OBP leagues.

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    The only AL prospect I own that didn't make the list is MIN OF Akil Baddoo. Talk about a sexy prospect name. I love what hes done this year. Started off looking like he didn't belong, with over 50% K rate and sub .200 BA through his first 100 AB or so, though he had a 20% BB rate. He appeared to change his approach to swing more, and cut his K's and BB's while adding hits, and the final season numbers aren't that bad. He's gotten his BA up to .241 while hitting 11 HR with 22 SB/5 CS in 111 games. If he matures into a 15 HR/30 SB guy, I'm very happy.

    How far off the list is he? I also own 138th ranked Lazaro Armenteros, but he's struggled with K's despite the .276 BA, and he's been underwhelming on the basepaths (7 SB/6 CS in 76 games)... could be a 20/20 guy at some point, or could increase power and ditch the SB attempts if the success rate doesn't improve. Lots of ways development could go.

    Either way, I like Baddoo slightly more. How far off the list is he for you, rhd?

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    for what it's worth, Fangraphs has him around 135 or so, and Armenteros a half-grade worse.
    In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.

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    I like the aggressive ranking on Kiriloff, but that is probably because he is the only prosect of merit I managed to hang on to as I went all in to repeat. Hurts to see how highly ranked the guys I gave are but flags fly forever and all. Still, I've never traded so many great minor leaguers before. We have 20 man rosters and I'm traded 16 of my guys, listed below. It just snowballed once I started parting with them.

    I traded Eloy Jimenez, Kyle Tucker, Forrest Whitley, Jesus Luzardo, Nick Senzel, Yordan Alvarez, Taylor Trammel, Mike Soroka, Carter Kieboom, Triston McKenzie, Willie Calhoun, Franklin Perez, Bryce Wilson, Leody Taveras, Brent Rooker, and Austin Beck, all the year.

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