Someone explain the love for Luis Urias as a prospect. Over 1750 AB and 17 hrs (about 1 every 100 AB), with 35 SB and caught 38 times. No speed and not much power. I don't get the love he's getting in prospect rankings.
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Originally posted by Roy Hobbs View PostSomeone explain the love for Luis Urias as a prospect. Over 1750 AB and 17 hrs (about 1 every 100 AB), with 35 SB and caught 38 times. No speed and not much power. I don't get the love he's getting in prospect rankings.
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Originally posted by TS Garp View PostHe has excellent on-base skills and I think the thought is that he could have a similar trajectory to Jose Ramirez, who showed very little power in the minors. Urias doesn't have Ramirez's speed but there are prospects who add a lot of power at the major league level and I think that's the thought with Urias.
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Originally posted by Roy Hobbs View PostPCL is an extreme hitters league, be leery.
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Originally posted by TS Garp View PostI'm just passing along what others see in him. Sickels has compared him to Freddy Sanchez with a better walk rate, which seems fair. He seems like a guy who could end up going .290/.375/.450 for many years while playing good defense, which is very valuable. Guessing he's ultimately a 12 hr/10 sb guy but he's young so who knows. He'll probably be a better actual baseball player than fantasy player.
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This reminds me of my posts in this same thread (previous iteration) about J.P. Crawford. I agree on the "better actual player than fantasy player" perspective.
Lindor is another counter example as well though.
So here's the question - how do we do a better job at identifying the Ramirez/Lindor types early and differentiate them from the glove first SS that will always be a glove first SS?
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Originally posted by Roy Hobbs View PostPCL is an extreme hitters league, be leery.
The Padres AAA affiliate is in El Paso, which is a hitters park but not an extreme park--runs are 1.178. Their AA affiliate is in San Antonio, which is a pronounced pitchers park--0.802. What you would expect, and we see, is significantly more HR in El Paso. Since that is still in single digits, no one is excited. What is interesting is that BA and OBA are the same in AA and AAA.
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostIt can be. Now that it covers so much territory it isn't what it once was.
The Padres AAA affiliate is in El Paso, which is a hitters park but not an extreme park--runs are 1.178. Their AA affiliate is in San Antonio, which is a pronounced pitchers park--0.802. What you would expect, and we see, is significantly more HR in El Paso. Since that is still in single digits, no one is excited. What is interesting is that BA and OBA are the same in AA and AAA.
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Originally posted by Ken View PostIf you compare AA and AAA though the change in Ks jumps off the page. Seems like you gotta mention that if you are mentioning the BA/OBP similarities.
The key is that he is a valuable baseball player rather than a valuable fantasy player. He'll be a solid #2 hitter for the Padres, play solid defense, score a bunch of runs and never be a top 50 fantasy player.Ad Astra per Aspera
Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostOn that, we agree. That said, he's a 21-year-old player in AAA. He didn't embarrass himself.
The key is that he is a valuable baseball player rather than a valuable fantasy player. He'll be a solid #2 hitter for the Padres, play solid defense, score a bunch of runs and never be a top 50 fantasy player.
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I have Lourdes, Urias and Hampson in my minors and am curious how you would rank them for this year and future. Who would roster and who would you dangle as trade bait? Seems like Lourdes should move right into the MI spot and 1 or both of the others could bring something valuable in return. I noticed Lourdes wasn't even on this list last year. He was #86 in 2017.
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Originally posted by KnuckleBalls View PostI have Lourdes, Urias and Hampson in my minors and am curious how you would rank them for this year and future. Who would roster and who would you dangle as trade bait? Seems like Lourdes should move right into the MI spot and 1 or both of the others could bring something valuable in return. I noticed Lourdes wasn't even on this list last year. He was #86 in 2017.
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