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  • #16
    Originally posted by Gregg View Post
    About 35% of those abused become abusers.

    While your statement has some appeal. You would be giving a death sentence to about a third of the victims of this terrible crime.
    Not only that, but you yourself would then be a cold blooded murderer and, if we play this game out with those rules, someone else would have no problem killing murderers. Rince, repeat. Aren't slippery slopes fun?

    Weeeee, here we go anarchy. That just sounds GREAT. (Sarcasm in case you can't tell).

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Gregg View Post
      About 35% of those abused become abusers.

      While your statement has some appeal. You would be giving a death sentence to about a third of the victims of this terrible crime.
      I'm breaking the chain
      "You know what's wrong with America? If I lovingly tongue a woman's nipple in a movie, it gets an "NC-17" rating, if I chop it off with a machete, it's an "R". That's what's wrong with America, man...."--Dennis Hopper

      "One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real." -- Klaus Kinski

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Fresno Bob View Post
        I'm breaking the chain
        By that logic we could easily clean up the some other problems.

        Any dealer that has Fentanyl or heroine with intent to sell is executed on the spot. Approximately 72,000 overdose deaths in 2017 how many could have been avoided.

        Any known gangs that use murder as an initiation get's shot on sight. All of them, in that type of gang you die.

        Greater good yada yada yada right?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Gregg View Post
          By that logic we could easily clean up the some other problems.

          Any dealer that has Fentanyl or heroine with intent to sell is executed on the spot. Approximately 72,000 overdose deaths in 2017 how many could have been avoided.

          Any known gangs that use murder as an initiation get's shot on sight. All of them, in that type of gang you die.

          Greater good yada yada yada right?
          So getting rid of all of those scum is a bad thing?
          "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
            So getting rid of all of those scum is a bad thing?
            You realize that's a slippery slope right? One where you get your hand cut off for being *accused* of stealing a candy bar?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Ken View Post
              You realize that's a slippery slope right? One where you get your hand cut off for being *accused* of stealing a candy bar?
              Sure. But why bring "accused" into it? How about after conviction?
              "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
                Sure. But why bring "accused" into it? How about after conviction?
                You understand that vigilante justice has no "convictions" required, right? It's just one person deciding on their own who gets to live and die.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Ken View Post
                  You realize that's a slippery slope right? One where you get your hand cut off for being *accused* of stealing a candy bar?
                  I should have said thatI meant getting rid of the scum in a legal way. Once convicted of a heinous crime. you die.
                  "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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                  • #24
                    Hey we have moved onto a sub topic-

                    Do you believe in capital punishment? If yes, where is that line drawn? Can judges decide? Can juries decide?

                    Just throwing the question out there

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
                      I should have said thatI meant getting rid of the scum in a legal way. Once convicted of a heinous crime. you die.
                      How do you feel about those people who have their convictions overturned once witnesses recant or new evidence absolves them?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by umjewman View Post
                        How do you feel about those people who have their convictions overturned once witnesses recant or new evidence absolves them?
                        Good question.

                        Has anyone ever been executed and then it was found out that they were innocent? I have no idea.

                        So instead of execution they get solitary or some other exponentially tougher life in prison.
                        "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
                          Has anyone ever been executed and then it was found out that they were innocent? I have no idea.
                          Yes.

                          Executed But Possibly Innocent
                          https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executed-possibly-innocent
                          The Death Penalty Information Center is a non-profit organization serving the media and the public with analysis and information about capital punishment.…


                          Exonerated After Execution: 12 Men (And One Woman) Found Innocent After Being Put to Death
                          https://madamenoire.com/73840/exonerated-after-execution-12-men-and-one-woman-found-innocent-after-being-put-to-death/
                          By Alexis Garrett Stodghill The execution of Troy Davis in Georgia last week despite tremendous doubt about his guilt has brought the issue of capital punishment into the national spotlight. As a c…


                          Yes, America, We Have Executed an Innocent Man
                          https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/05/yes-america-we-have-executed-an-innocent-man/257106/
                          Carlos DeLuna was put to death in December 1989 for a murder in Corpus Christi. But he didn't commit the crime. Today, his case reminds us of the glaring flaws of capital punishment.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
                            Good question.

                            Has anyone ever been executed and then it was found out that they were innocent? I have no idea.

                            So instead of execution they get solitary or some other exponentially tougher life in prison.
                            And plenty who were on death row were later exonerated.
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                            • #29
                              I'm probably not going to kill any child molesters unless I catch them in the act
                              "You know what's wrong with America? If I lovingly tongue a woman's nipple in a movie, it gets an "NC-17" rating, if I chop it off with a machete, it's an "R". That's what's wrong with America, man...."--Dennis Hopper

                              "One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real." -- Klaus Kinski

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
                                I should have said thatI meant getting rid of the scum in a legal way. Once convicted of a heinous crime. you die.
                                So you are in favor of conceal and carry?

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