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    Door open. Call police? I know gregg said 99.9 % police arent going to shoot an innocent person. I think that may be correct in some areas. I am also sure police likely escalate in tons of cases.

    You cant check on a neighbor who is a few feet away, yourself verbally call out, hey mabel, you ok? Or make a cell call if you have their number like I would think many of us have contact info of our immediate neighbors. I wouldnt call police, and I know I am not surprised when police arrive and escalate, do some illegal search, throw you on ground and dare you to do something so they can pile on. Police job consists of for most part arrive well after the fact of incidents to file a report, and exercise their superiority over dark skin or otherwise voiceless populace a large percent of time. If I am needing to talk to a cop I want it to be filmed, not on their camera which will magically stop recording when they do something they shouldnt, but on cell uploaded to cloud as I want them accountable.

    Yes I have a couple stops where I did nothing wrong and was roughed up and was absolutely dared to respond so they could pounce. I hold my breath till police go on to harass someone else but I never feel good about a cop in my area looking me over. You could, btw if you wanted to piss yourself off, see an endless lineup of youtube videos of cops conforming to my world view which I am sure some of you will call ridiculous. Good for you, you havent been unfairly targeted and roughed up on multiple occasions by paid bullies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    Serious question. You see a neighbor's door open. You see nothing else suspicious of note. What are the mathematical odds that a crime is taking place, or that a medical emergency is underway, based on the only evidence that we have: an open door?
    Why are you leaving out the fact that it was 2 AM? That's not a normal thing.

    My neighbor came by at 11 PM the other night to tell me that my car door had been left open (my daughter forgot to close it when she got out of the car). I was concerned answering the door at that hour, but once he identified himself and let me know why he was there I was extremely thankful.

    There have been kids going through cars in my neighborhood on a regular basis (I get emails from nextdoor or ring regularly showing someone on a cam trying to open a car door).

    My neighbor likely saved me from having some tools stolen. That's what neighbors do. Have you never heard the state farm commercials "like a good neighbor"?

    Blaming the neighbor is beyond ridiculous. 100% of the blame lies on the cop. 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    So why did the neighbor really call the police?
    Nosy neighbor with no life, creating drama under the illusion of protecting people. Because like you, it would never occur to this neighbor that involving police is much more likely to escalate violence than to stop it. It would never occur to them that wasting tax payer dollars to check on an open door has a greater likelihood of increasing violence. People who have never been criminalized, or especially never been personally mistreated or abused by police, would be shocked at the amount of harm caused by a group of former high school bullies given guns and zero accountability to the public. These stories should make it clear, but somehow there's an endless amount of "bad apples", who never affect police as an institution. Funny how that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcstomp View Post
    Door open. Call police? I know gregg said 99.9 % police arent going to shoot an innocent person. I think that may be correct in some areas. I am also sure police likely escalate in tons of cases.

    You cant check on a neighbor who is a few feet away, yourself verbally call out, hey mabel, you ok? Or make a cell call if you have their number like I would think many of us have contact info of our immediate neighbors. I wouldnt call police, and I know I am not surprised when police arrive and escalate, do some illegal search, throw you on ground and dare you to do something so they can pile on. Police job consists of for most part arrive well after the fact of incidents to file a report, and exercise their superiority over dark skin or otherwise voiceless populace a large percent of time. If I am needing to talk to a cop I want it to be filmed, not on their camera which will magically stop recording when they do something they shouldnt, but on cell uploaded to cloud as I want them accountable.

    Yes I have a couple stops where I did nothing wrong and was roughed up and was absolutely dared to respond so they could pounce. I hold my breath till police go on to harass someone else but I never feel good about a cop in my area looking me over. You could, btw if you wanted to piss yourself off, see an endless lineup of youtube videos of cops conforming to my world view which I am sure some of you will call ridiculous. Good for you, you havent been unfairly targeted and roughed up on multiple occasions by paid bullies.
    Good post. Police are absolutely more likely to escalate things. It's part of the business model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    Police are absolutely more likely to escalate things. It's part of the business model.
    Link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    Serious question. You see a neighbor's door open. You see nothing else suspicious of note. What are the mathematical odds that a crime is taking place, or that a medical emergency is underway, based on the only evidence that we have: an open door?
    I have come upon several open doors in my lifetime. I have moved in cautiously and yelled the person's name. The hair stood up on my neck and arms. I felt a bit of fear and trepidation but not enough to call the police or prevent me from taking a few steps in. I am not saying this is the smartest response. It is probably the subconscious belief that odds are nothing is wrong. Of course if something was wrong it could be a bad outcome.

    Is it possible that the neighborhood is so bad that the neighbor thinks open doors are signs of something gone wrong?

    We are still left with the question: Why did the neighbor call the police?

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    If it's 2 am then it makes more sense. It's not normal to have one's door wide open at that hour. I'm not saying I would've called the cops but it's understandable why someone would. Now the POS murderer needs to receive a lengthy prison sentence and the taxpayers get to compensate her family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcstomp View Post
    Door open. Call police? I know gregg said 99.9 % police arent going to shoot an innocent person. I think that may be correct in some areas. I am also sure police likely escalate in tons of cases.

    You cant check on a neighbor who is a few feet away, yourself verbally call out, hey mabel, you ok? Or make a cell call if you have their number like I would think many of us have contact info of our immediate neighbors. I wouldnt call police, and I know I am not surprised when police arrive and escalate, do some illegal search, throw you on ground and dare you to do something so they can pile on. Police job consists of for most part arrive well after the fact of incidents to file a report, and exercise their superiority over dark skin or otherwise voiceless populace a large percent of time. If I am needing to talk to a cop I want it to be filmed, not on their camera which will magically stop recording when they do something they shouldnt, but on cell uploaded to cloud as I want them accountable.

    Yes I have a couple stops where I did nothing wrong and was roughed up and was absolutely dared to respond so they could pounce. I hold my breath till police go on to harass someone else but I never feel good about a cop in my area looking me over. You could, btw if you wanted to piss yourself off, see an endless lineup of youtube videos of cops conforming to my world view which I am sure some of you will call ridiculous. Good for you, you havent been unfairly targeted and roughed up on multiple occasions by paid bullies.
    I am very sorry that you have had to experience this. It is not fair and sickens me that we are far away from a solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    I have come upon several open doors in my lifetime. I have moved in cautiously and yelled the person's name. The hair stood up on my neck and arms. I felt a bit of fear and trepidation but not enough to call the police or prevent me from taking a few steps in. I am not saying this is the smartest response. It is probably the subconscious belief that odds are nothing is wrong. Of course if something was wrong it could be a bad outcome.

    Is it possible that the neighborhood is so bad that the neighbor thinks open doors are signs of something gone wrong?

    We are still left with the question: Why did the neighbor call the police?
    I don't deny that the neighbor phoned police with the intention of looking out for a neighbor. I'm saying that the instinct to trust police to de-escalate is a poor instinct. Unless you see a clear crime in progress, keep the police out of it.

    Personally, I've fallen asleep with my front door open a few times. If I woke up to police confrontation because of it, you'd better believe I'm blaming my neighbor for their poor instinct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    We are still left with the question: Why did the neighbor call the police?
    There's no question, he was interviewed

    "The door had been open for hours and that he didn’t see any movement when he went to the house himself, so he’d called for authorities to make sure his neighbors were OK."

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