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  • Originally posted by baldgriff View Post
    I dont disagree that this is essentially the DNC covering their own behinds in a more "official" manner. If Bernie were to run, would he be a legitimate 3rd party candidate?
    We can only hope that Bernie stays to his principles and say, "FU DNC! I don't need you." He would definitely be a viable 3rd Party candidate. He could be the catalyst to opening up opportunity for more parties to be involved in government.

    I'm feelin' the Bern in 2020!
    "Looks like I picked a bad day to give up sniffing glue.
    - Steven McCrosky (Lloyd Bridges) in Airplane

    i have epiphanies like that all the time. for example i was watching a basketball game today and realized pom poms are like a pair of tits. there's 2 of them. they're round. they shake. women play with them. thus instead of having two, cheerleaders have four boobs.
    - nullnor, speaking on immigration law in AZ.

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    • Originally posted by B-Fly View Post
      Glad to see you back, baldgriff!

      If Bernie were to run as a 3rd party independent, he'd essentially guarantee the Republican nominee a victory. So I'd much prefer to have him pursue the Democratic Party nomination and be given a fair shake. While I didn't back him in 2016, I view his positions as generally aligned with Democratic Party positions and broad principles, and therefore see no good reason to deny him the opportunity to make his case to Democratic primary voters. This rule change may have been intended to twist his nipples a little bit, but it wouldn't appear to preclude him from pursuing the Democratic nomination. He presumably would just need to change his voter registration to Democratic (if he's not already so-registered) and declare that he would accept the Party's nomination and serve in Presidential office as a Democrat.
      Intersting perspective. In the prior election there were many on the Dem side that made the general statement in defense of the HRC win, that Bernie really shouldnt be on the ticket because he is a socialist and not really a Democrat. So has Bernie moved more centrist or has the party moved further left? I dont have time to find the thread or your comment about not being comfortable with certain candidates that the DNC is putting up - is your party leaving you?
      It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
      Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address


      "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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      • Originally posted by baldgriff View Post
        Intersting perspective. In the prior election there were many on the Dem side that made the general statement in defense of the HRC win, that Bernie really shouldnt be on the ticket because he is a socialist and not really a Democrat. So has Bernie moved more centrist or has the party moved further left? I dont have time to find the thread or your comment about not being comfortable with certain candidates that the DNC is putting up - is your party leaving you?
        I wasn't posting on RotoJunkie during the 2016 election cycle and don't think I've ever argued that Bernie shouldn't be the nominee because he's not really a Democrat. I'm a free trader, I generally support keeping military options on the table to address security threats, and I actually like Common Core, so there are issues that tend to push me off of the furthest left leaning candidates in a Democratic primary, but I've always viewed the Democratic Party as having a pretty wide band of folks from center or even slightly right of center all the way to pretty far left wing, and I prefer to keep them all in the Party rather than casting them off. Let primary voters decide who they feel best meets their desires for the Party and the presidency.

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        • Originally posted by In the Corn View Post
          We can only hope that Bernie stays to his principles and say, "FU DNC! I don't need you." He would definitely be a viable 3rd Party candidate. He could be the catalyst to opening up opportunity for more parties to be involved in government.

          I'm feelin' the Bern in 2020!

          LOL! I will stay with my Libertarians. While there are some intriguing ideas from the Berner's - I dont trust government enough to let them try and run it.
          It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
          Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address


          "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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          • Colorado governor John Hickenlooper just returned from the Bilderberg conference in Turin. Assuming he kissed all the right rings and passed his audition, there's your Democratic presidential nominee for 2020.
            "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
            "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
            "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."

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            • Originally posted by senorsheep View Post
              Colorado governor John Hickenlooper just returned from the Bilderberg conference in Turin. Assuming he kissed all the right rings and passed his audition, there's your Democratic presidential nominee for 2020.
              He makes as much sense as most of the candidates forewarded thus far and more than many.

              J
              Ad Astra per Aspera

              Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

              GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

              Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

              I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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              • Originally posted by baldgriff View Post
                Annnd I am back........... again.......
                "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

                "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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                • Originally posted by senorsheep View Post
                  Colorado governor John Hickenlooper just returned from the Bilderberg conference in Turin. Assuming he kissed all the right rings and passed his audition, there's your Democratic presidential nominee for 2020.
                  Heh. The Shroud of Turin might have been worn by a person who was resurrected, but Hickenlooper would need an even bigger miracle to be the 2020 nominee.
                  I'm just here for the baseball.

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                  • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
                    This is a good post.
                    I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.

                    Ronald Reagan

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                    • Originally posted by Bernie Brewer View Post
                      This is a good post.
                      Im such a sucker!
                      It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
                      Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address


                      "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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                      • Originally posted by senorsheep View Post
                        Colorado governor John Hickenlooper just returned from the Bilderberg conference in Turin. Assuming he kissed all the right rings and passed his audition, there's your Democratic presidential nominee for 2020.
                        Think you might be onto something here, Sheep. As the field begins to narrow, a pragmatic guy like Hickenlooper is going to be a lot of different Democratic groups second choice, which may be enough.
                        At least as far getting good value in the predictive markets, he’s as good a play as anyone.

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                        • Originally posted by nots View Post
                          Think you might be onto something here, Sheep. As the field begins to narrow, a pragmatic guy like Hickenlooper is going to be a lot of different Democratic groups second choice, which may be enough.
                          At least as far getting good value in the predictive markets, he’s as good a play as anyone.
                          Plus he doesn't have a Trump nickname yet.

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                          • Originally posted by B-Fly View Post
                            Plus he doesn't have a Trump nickname yet.
                            He'll probably go with one of the retreads like Lyin, Cryin, Lightweight, Little or Crooked. I'm not sure how deep his nickname capabilities go.

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                            • I haven't followed Hickenlooper all that closely, but he seems like a solid, reasonable dude with a good track record, which I like.

                              Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper on Denver Post controversy, marijuana legalization, and his 2020 ambitions.

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                              • Originally posted by B-Fly View Post
                                Plus he doesn't have a Trump nickname yet.
                                My money's on "Chickenlooper."
                                "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
                                "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
                                "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."

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