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    Quote Originally Posted by OaklandA's View Post
    I assume you have used email at some point in your life. Let's say that Hillary sent you an email, and then deleted it from her server (with BleachBit!). That process would not have deleted that email from your incoming mail server. If you had read the email on a computer, it would not have removed that email from your Inbox. If you had read that email on a phone or tablet, it would not have removed that email from that device. If anyone else was also included on the 'To', 'Cc', or 'Bcc' fields, the deletion process would not have removed that email from their mail server, computer or mobile device. The emails or portions of them might even be found on intermediate servers along the way too.

    So I think it is safe to say that if Hillary had sent one of those mystery emails to someone working with a government or military account (.gov or .mil address), the FBI would definitely have it. Knowing the FBI's resources, if it had been sent to someone with a Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, Blackberry, or Apple email address, the FBI would almost definitely have it. If it was sent to a foreign government or individual, there is a good chance that the NSA would have it.

    What emails would they not have? Probably ones that were sent only within the Clintonemail server itself, so that would mean emails sent within the family or possibly with Huma Abedin, who were the only people who used the private clintonemail.com server. So yes, it is possible that Hillary, Chelsea, and Huma (Bill apparently did not use the private email server during this period) were engaged in something nefarious solely between the three of them. But I've seen no evidence of this, so yes, I am comfortable in saying that I don't find the Hillary email issue problematic after the FBI's serious inquiry.
    But that doesn't fit the "both sides do it" narrative so will be conveniently ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OaklandA's View Post
    I assume you have used email at some point in your life. Let's say that Hillary sent you an email, and then deleted it from her server (with BleachBit!). That process would not have deleted that email from your incoming mail server. If you had read the email on a computer, it would not have removed that email from your Inbox. If you had read that email on a phone or tablet, it would not have removed that email from that device. If anyone else was also included on the 'To', 'Cc', or 'Bcc' fields, the deletion process would not have removed that email from their mail server, computer or mobile device. The emails or portions of them might even be found on intermediate servers along the way too.

    So I think it is safe to say that if Hillary had sent one of those mystery emails to someone working with a government or military account (.gov or .mil address), the FBI would definitely have it. Knowing the FBI's resources, if it had been sent to someone with a Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, Blackberry, or Apple email address, the FBI would almost definitely have it. If it was sent to a foreign government or individual, there is a good chance that the NSA would have it.

    What emails would they not have? Probably ones that were sent only within the Clintonemail server itself, so that would mean emails sent within the family or possibly with Huma Abedin, who were the only people who used the private clintonemail.com server. So yes, it is possible that Hillary, Chelsea, and Huma (Bill apparently did not use the private email server during this period) were engaged in something nefarious solely between the three of them. But I've seen no evidence of this, so yes, I am comfortable in saying that I don't find the Hillary email issue problematic after the FBI's serious inquiry.
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    Banner couple of days for the President and his party...they finally get rid of the ACA, at least temporarily. Another cabinet member resigns amid rumors of financial misdealings. Betsy Devos and Trump's school safety commission will recommend canceling an Obama-era initiative meant to reduce racial disparities in school discipline and will not recommend new gun restrictions. And finally, a 7 year old girl dies of dehydration and complications while in the custody of the Border patrol...the same group that is seen on video dumping water meant for refugees.

    Why does almost everything that this administration touches has to hurt people? Honestly, I can't imagine going through life in this fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornsby View Post
    Banner couple of days for the President and his party...they finally get rid of the ACA, at least temporarily. Another cabinet member resigns amid rumors of financial misdealings. Betsy Devos and Trump's school safety commission will recommend canceling an Obama-era initiative meant to reduce racial disparities in school discipline and will not recommend new gun restrictions. And finally, a 7 year old girl dies of dehydration and complications while in the custody of the Border patrol...the same group that is seen on video dumping water meant for refugees.

    Why does almost everything that this administration touches has to hurt people? Honestly, I can't imagine going through life in this fashion.
    Because Trump has spent his entire life trying to enrich himself and his family at the expense of others. And the American public was foolish enough to elect him president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMT View Post
    Because Trump has spent his entire life trying to enrich himself and his family at the expense of others. And the American public was foolish enough to elect him president.
    I get that, I guess that I'm not smart enough to see just how they monetize these abhorrent actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornsby View Post
    I get that, I guess that I'm not smart enough to see just how they monetize these abhorrent actions.
    Well, today's San Francisco Chronicle has a good opinion piece on how the Russians may have used Kompromat on him around 2008. Not saying this is true, but it's possible and would answer some of these questions.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/...p-13463782.php

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    lately i think everywhere in the world it all reduces down to the rich vs the poor. ..i guess you shouldn't try to look at it in a class warfare type of way. so maybe it's just everyone trying to get rich or more powerful or successful, it's just that rich people are better at it.

    you can say, suppose you act racist in order to win politics to get rich and powerful. you don't actually care about race just getting richer and getting more stuff for Christmas, like GI JOE with a kung fu grip! or you don't really want to take away health care from poor people and wish them harm, you just want a bigger slice of the pie.

    but it's happening everywhere. in France the riots weren't just about a gas tax. and i don't know what Brexit is, but i bet it's about class warfare. austerity is probably the same thing.

    isn't France supposed to be socialist? how does a socialist country riot over inequality?

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    Bad day so far for the Cheeto Jesus, he's had to back down on the Government shutdown, apparently realizing that he had no hand to play.

    And, his personal money laundering apparatus, the Trump foundation. Trump used the charity’s funds pay off legal settlements for his private business, to purchase art that decorated one of his golf clubs and to make a prohibited political donation.

    How's the poor guy supposed to make a living?
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    On the good Trump news front, it appears he's keeping to his promise to ban bump stocks.

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    On the good Trump news front, it appears he's keeping to his promise to ban bump stocks.
    I have no issue with this at all!
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