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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbirds Fan View Post
    Sure, but it seems that your point is to unnecessarily downplay the role of speeches. Wouldn't it be fair to say that "speeches" have been an important strategic device used by many of our successful presidents to unveil and drum up support for major policy initiatives?
    Obama was a very good speaker, so all his speeches generally sounded pretty good unless you were really paying attention. After 8 years of that, I'd happily accept poor speeches for better policy.
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    Steven Mnuchin "forgot" to list $100m in assets
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    Does it seem to anyone else that Trump and his cronies have kinda mailed it in so far? Maybe they think it's easy and will pick it up, but they seem tremendously unprepared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nots View Post
    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/na...19d16a6e0.html

    The Department of the Interior is again retweeting after its brief internal investigation. Much ado about nothing.
    No, the fact that our precious snowflake of a President felt wounded enough by physical proof of the poor turnout to his Inauguration is plenty troubling in and of itself. The fact that the Department was back in the Twitter business today after a vigorous 12 hour investigation. Showing that someone realized that the shutdown looked so bad they'd better walk it back right quick. PR 101.

    Today was even more hilarious when the cheeto-in-charge went on a rant at the Wall of Honor at CIA headquarters...claiming that the media was lying about the size of yesterdays crowd, despite all of the evidence, both photographs and video, from professional sources, amature sources, and yes, even Government sources, was again a lie by the media. And at a place honoring the bravest members of the CIA, those who gave all to keep us safe.

    "I have a running war with the media, they are among the most dishonest human beings on Earth -- they sort of made it sound like I had a feud with the intelligence community. The reason you are the number one stop is exactly the opposite," he said.

    Later, White House press secretary Sean Spicer appeared in the White House briefing room to warn the administration was going to hold the press "accountable" and argued that the Trump crowd was the largest inaugural crowd ever. He said any suggestion otherwise was "shameful and wrong."

    Spicer then left the room after the statement without taking questions.
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/21/politi...two/index.html

    I'm starting to think that he's so thin skinned, and desperate to be loved, that he won't last a year. Because it's not going to get any easier from here on out...far from it.

    And didn't we already determine that philly.com is a fake news site?
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    There's an old saying "never get into a fight with people who buy ink by the barrel". This is what's happening here, this is what's going to lead to greater journalism than we've ever seen. You shut out the media, rather than be buddy buddy with them, they'll get you in the end. Here's a fine example from today:

    "That's what you guys should be writing and covering," new White House press secretary Sean Spicer angrily lectured reporters on Saturday during his first remarks from the podium of the press briefing room.

    He was referring to the delay in Senate confirmation for President Donald Trump's pick to lead the CIA, Congressman Mike Pompeo, but the comment came after a long digression about how many people had shown up to watch Trump be sworn in as president.

    "This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period," Spicer said, contradicting all available data.
    Aerial photos have indicated that former president Barack Obama's first inauguration attracted a much larger crowd. Nielsen ratings show that Obama also had a bigger television audience.
    Spicer said, without any evidence, that some photos were "intentionally framed" to downplay Trump's crowd.

    He also expressed objections to specific Twitter posts from journalists. And he said, "we're going to hold the press accountable," partly by reaching the public through social networking sites.
    His statement included several specific misstatements of fact in addition to the overarching one.

    "This is the first time in our nation's history that floor coverings have been used to protect the grass on the Mall," Spicer said, claiming that this "had the effect of highlighting areas people were not standing whereas in years past the grass eliminated this visual."

    In fact, coverings were used for Obama's second inauguration in 2013.

    "This was also the first time that fencing and magnetometers went as far back on the Mall, preventing hundreds of thousands of people from being able to access the Mall as quickly as they had in inaugurations past," Spicer said.

    In fact, a United States Secret Service spokesperson told CNN, no magnetometers were used on the Mall.

    And Spicer said, "We know that 420,000 people used the D.C, Metro public transit yesterday, which actually compares to 317,000 for president Obama's last inaugural."
    Spicer's number for ridership on Friday was actually low -- the correct number, according to Metro itself, was 570,557. But there were actually 782,000 trips taken for Obama's second inaugural in 2013.

    Spicer, at times almost yelling while reading a prepared statement, took no questions. CNNMoney called his cell phone a few minutes later; he did not answer.

    Some longtime White House correspondents were stunned by the tirade.

    Glenn Thrush of The New York Times wrote on Twitter, "Jaw meet floor."
    "I've run out of adjectives," wrote Chuck Todd, the moderator of NBC's "Meet the Press."

    Karen Tumulty of the Washington Post said Spicer's assertion about "what you guys should be writing" was "chilling."

    Reactions were overwhelmingly negative, and not just from journalists.

    Ari Fleischer, who had the same job as Spicer during the George W. Bush administration, tweeted, "This is called a statement you're told to make by the President. And you know the President is watching."

    And Brian Fallon, who was in line to become press secretary if Hillary Clinton had won, wrote, "Sean Spicer lacks the guts or integrity to refuse orders to go out and lie. He is a failure in this job on his first full day."

    Conservative commentator Bill Kristol said "it is embarrassing, as an American, to watch this briefing by Sean Spicer from the podium at the White House. Not the RNC. The White House."

    The White House alerted the press corps to Spicer's statement more than an hour ahead of time.

    The CNN television network made a choice not to broadcast the Spicer statement live. Instead, the statement was monitored and then reported on after the fact.

    Former Democratic congressman Steve Israel, who recently joined CNN as a commentator, said, "This isn't a petty attack on the press. It's a calculated attempt to delegitimize any questioning of @realDonaldTrump by a free press."

    Spicer's statement came two hours after Trump spoke at CIA headquarters and described his "running war with the media." Trump spent several minutes of that speech complaining about news coverage.
    In his remarks, Spicer suggested Trump would bypass traditional media outlets he believes are unfairly reporting on his presidency.

    "The American people deserve better, and so long as he serves as the messenger for this incredible movement, he will take his message directly to the American people, where his focus will always be," Spicer said.

    Spicer was joined in the Brady Press Briefing Room by members of his new White House press and communications staff, who are still moving into their offices and learning the way around the West Wing.

    He tellingly led off his short statement with his tirade against the media, leaving announcements about phone calls with the leaders of Canada and Mexico, and announcing that Trump would meet with British Prime Minister Theresa May, to the end.

    During those announcements, Spicer incorrectly referred to Mexican President Enrique Peņa Nieto as "prime minister."
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    Quote Originally Posted by revo View Post
    Betsy DeVos knows less about Education than a substitute teacher
    As a former substitute teacher, and one who does have a secondary education certificate....I'm available for the job.
    Considering his only baseball post in the past year was bringing up a 3 year old thread to taunt Hornsby and he's never contributed a dime to our hatpass, perhaps?

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    SOLD!
    "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
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    "Your shitty future continues to offend me."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornsby View Post
    No, the fact that our precious snowflake of a President felt wounded enough by physical proof of the poor turnout to his Inauguration is plenty troubling in and of itself. The fact that the Department was back in the Twitter business today after a vigorous 12 hour investigation. Showing that someone realized that the shutdown looked so bad they'd better walk it back right quick. PR 101.

    Today was even more hilarious when the cheeto-in-charge went on a rant at the Wall of Honor at CIA headquarters...claiming that the media was lying about the size of yesterdays crowd, despite all of the evidence, both photographs and video, from professional sources, amature sources, and yes, even Government sources, was again a lie by the media. And at a place honoring the bravest members of the CIA, those who gave all to keep us safe.



    [url]http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/21/politics/trump-presidency-day-two/index.html[/url

    I'm starting to think that he's so thin skinned, and desperate to be loved, that he won't last a year. Because it's not going to get any easier from here on out...far from it.

    And didn't we already determine that philly.com is a fake news site?
    Yeah, Trump was so unnerved by criticism from the chattering class that he reignited the Twitter accounts immediately, lol. Truthfully, we would all be better off if he was that introspective, but alas, he isn't.
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    It's just embarrassing. Our President (a grown man) speaking to the intelligence community, whining about estimates of crowd size.

    A couple of things stood out. One was the his claim that he could tell there were a million to a million and a half people there. And he could tell that how? Because his campaign rallies of 15,000 to 40,000 gave him this skill?

    The other was his awkward statement about watching the cable coverage of crowd size. He started telling the story about how he turned to the station, then caught himself, and claimed the "accidentally" saw it. He didn't want to admit what we already know, which is that is a slave to media coverage of Trump. And he cannot resist complaining when it is it negative.

    I'll bet he got beaten up every day in junior high.

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    looks like someone else is writing his twitter account - finally - see bolded - that isnt his writing

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    Peaceful protests are a hallmark of our democracy. Even if I don't always agree, I recognize the rights of people to express their views.

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    Wow, television ratings just out: 31 million people watched the Inauguration, 11 million more than the very good ratings from 4 years ago!
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    Watched protests yesterday but was under the impression that we just had an election! Why didn't these people vote? Celebs hurt cause badly.

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    The great irony, of course, in his "war with the media" is that Donald Trump is 100% a media creation.

    Anyone who lived in NYC during the 1980s knows how much he was a whore to the tabloids. He loved getting on the cover of the Daily News or NY Post anytime he could.



    I guess their usefulness is over!

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