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"The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times
"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden
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Originally posted by cardboardbox View PostThen you're a better/stronger person that most of the rest of us. Dont think for a second your fellow liberals wouldnt be loving the reaction from the right if your side were getting ready to install Kennedy's replacement.
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Originally posted by B-Fly View PostI'd be happy for substantive reasons if Democrats were replacing Scalia and Kennedy, not out of some sadistic sense of joy at seeing conservatives despair. I really hate that.I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.
Ronald Reagan
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Interesting take on SCOTUS appointment from 538 in regards to moderate Democrats who are up in the fall for re-election.
There are a handful of these moderate Democrats to keep an eye on. When the president’s first Supreme Court nominee, Neil Gorsuch, was confirmed by the Senate in April 2017, three Democrats crossed party lines to vote for him: Joe Manchin of West Virginia, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Joe Donnelly of Indiana. Trump won in each of their states, and each senator is up for re-election in the fall in a race rated as a toss-up by The Cook Political Report. There are two other Democratic senators who face similar toss-up races in 2018 but voted against Gorsuch’s nomination: Bill Nelson of Florida and Claire McCaskill of Missouri. Nelson was thought to be worried about drawing a primary challenge from the left if he voted for Gorsuch, and McCaskill reportedly agonized over her decision before casting a vote against Gorsuch. In the year since the Gorsuch vote, the Senate has added one more Democratic moderate whose next election is looming on the horizon: Doug Jones of Alabama, who faces re-election in 2020.I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.
Ronald Reagan
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Originally posted by Bernie Brewer View PostBut liberals despair so well (I made myself laugh, so sorry if this offends, it is not meant to, it is only meant to provide some levity)!
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Originally posted by B-Fly View PostLook, I'm not "offended", just saddened by the extent to which American political discourse today is so heavily dominated by joy-taking in the despair, fear, anxiety, humiliation and 'losing' of others. It's pretty f'd up and sadistic. And it's certainly not exclusive to the right, although they're clearly overrepresented on this front since Trump's electoral victory. I just really hate to see it from conservatives whose substantive policy arguments I generally respect.I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.
Ronald Reagan
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Originally posted by Bernie Brewer View PostIn all seriousness, I agree with you. No one should take joy in another’s despair."The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times
"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden
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Originally posted by cardboardbox View Posttoo bad we cant go back to posts from late 2008 to late 2010. You'd see a lot of joy over republicans despair.Last edited by Bernie Brewer; 06-28-2018, 10:59 AM.I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.
Ronald Reagan
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Originally posted by B-Fly View PostDude, man up and break the cycle.I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.
Ronald Reagan
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Originally posted by B-Fly View PostDude, man up and break the cycle."The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times
"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden
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Originally posted by cardboardbox View PostI did express joy over Kennedy retiring but I dont remember expressing joy over democrats despair. Did I?
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Originally posted by B-Fly View PostI think I have generally done this as well as trying to lead by example, but please call me out if/when I slip.I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.
Ronald Reagan
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Everybody wants to go back in history to precisely the moment when their tribe was being victimized by the other tribe at their worst, and start their blame narrative from that point. That gets us nowhere.
We now have a nomination process so badly broken that, from here forward, both parties will nominate Supreme Court justices as extreme as their numbers will allow, completely excluding input and buy-in from the other side. That should cause anyone who cares more about their country than their party to despair.
Advise and consent needs to be restored. From where we are now, I can't see the path back to that. Every nominee rammed through this broken system on a partisan vote makes the climb steeper.
I am absolutely in despair over this whole mess. For anyone who enjoys that, party on."When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."
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