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  • #2116
    Originally posted by Ken View Post
    It seems like you are attacking a straw man here. I was responding to your post to fbp where you referenced stats for the entire bullpen to counter his characterization about middle relief. And it seems like you agree with my other points as well. So... not sure what argument you have with me, seems like you are still arguing with FBP.
    Not arguing with you, I don't agree with FBP so I guess I'm arguing with him, but I don't see much of an argument there.

    I just wanted to understand how you arrived at you takes re: the Padres middle relief, that's all.
    If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

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    • #2117
      GITH. The team hits very poorly vs RHP. In the starting lineup there are 3 LHH, 2 of which are having poor years (Grisham and Croneworth). Again poor roster construction. Preller gave up much too much to get Nola who along with Alfaro have thrown out 2 of 21 batters and barely hit their weight. I have also watched most of the Padre games and don’t share your optimism. Their positive record has been against the dregs of the league. They have a losing record against teams who are above 500. They are on the verge of being swept by the Cardinals after losing two games in which they were tied or had the lead in the late innings. Can’t even imagine where they would be without Rogers (credit Preller here). I also see them being hampered at the trade deadline unless they blow thru the cap. On a positive note, they are not the Phillies.
      Last edited by FBP; 06-01-2022, 02:26 PM.

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      • #2118
        Originally posted by revo View Post
        how long until Mazara gets called up to replace Profar in LF?
        Mazara called up, Cano DFA'd

        Let's see what the kid can do!
        If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

        Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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        • #2119
          Originally posted by FBP View Post
          GITH. The team hits very poorly vs RHP. In the starting lineup there are 3 LHH, 2 of which are having poor years (Grisham and Croneworth). Again poor roster construction. Preller gave up much too much to get Nola who along with Alfaro have thrown out 2 of 21 batters and barely hit their weight. I have also watched most of the Padre games and don’t share your optimism. Their positive record has been against the dregs of the league. They have a losing record against teams who are above 500. They are on the verge of being swept by the Cardinals after losing two games in which they were tied or had the lead in the late innings. Can’t even imagine where they would be without Rogers (credit Preller here). I also see them being hampered at the trade deadline unless they blow thru the cap. On a positive note, they are not the Phillies.
          The deal for Nola was indeed poor in retrospect as many deals in MLB can seem years after the fact. I like Alfaro's arm a bit more than you seem to and I'd make a small wager, Nola is gone by or at the deadline, I see Contreras being brought in along with Happ for depth. As for construction of the roster--I believe the lockout hindered what Preller had planned. He went after Gallo, Schwarber and Reynold--all who are lefties (Reynolds is a switch, but then so if Profar so they have 4) I don't see the issues you do--I see a team hitting league avg with most of their guys underperforming and only 2 playing above their career avgs and without Tatis. I see a team that, like every other, has dealt with significant injury yet have a great record--keeping in mind, they only hoped to be close when Tatis returned so to me, they've far exceeded expectations. They're not the Dodgers, nor will they ever be. Half the BP are guys who might not even BE on the roster if Pomeranz, Adams and Johnson hadn't gotten hurt. I've noticed a trend with some Padre fans, they expect perfection after years of mediocracy, they're out of patience and they've lost sight of the big picture.

          I'll say it right here and now--this team hasn't played it's best baseball, not even close. They will soon enough and without wholesale changes. I say that because I believe Melvin makes that much of a difference and as the Padres get healthy, strengthen their bench and BP--they will prove to be one of the best team in the NL and possibly MLB. I believe they'll make the playoffs and give LA a run to the wire like SF did last season. They have a real shot to sweep most of the post season awards--Manager of the Year, MVP, Cy Young and ROY. Will they? Probably not but the mere fact we can have that conversation--realistically--is more than any Padre fan has ever enjoyed.

          Keep being pragmatic, you'll balance my optimism and in the end I believe we both want to see them succeed.

          Keeping the Faith.
          If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

          Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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          • #2120
            Really bad blown save for Rogers tonite. 4-1 lead in the 9th and he gives up 4 runs w/o getting an out to blow the save and the game. Also blew a save earlier in the week. His job probably is still safe tho for now.

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            • #2121
              Originally posted by rhd View Post
              Really bad blown save for Rogers tonite. 4-1 lead in the 9th and he gives up 4 runs w/o getting an out to blow the save and the game. Also blew a save earlier in the week. His job probably is still safe tho for now.
              Because their middle relievers are bad too???

              Sorry had to.

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              • #2122
                Originally posted by Ken View Post
                Because their middle relievers are bad too???

                Sorry had to.
                LOL, all good here.

                BTW hope you and the family feel better soon--Make that drive.
                If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                • #2123
                  Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                  LOL, all good here.

                  BTW hope you and the family feel better soon--Make that drive.
                  thank you sir!!

                  leaning that way - trying wait to hear back soon from the pediatric gastro specialist in case there are meds I need to pick up soon for Hirschsprungs/COVID

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                  • #2124
                    Originally posted by Ken View Post
                    thank you sir!!

                    leaning that way - trying wait to hear back soon from the pediatric gastro specialist in case there are meds I need to pick up soon for Hirschsprungs/COVID
                    Well don't forget about yourself--make sure you're ok and drive safe so you can be there for them like I know you want to. Safe Travels
                    If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                    Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                    Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                    • #2125
                      Originally posted by revo View Post
                      how long until Mazara gets called up to replace Profar in LF?
                      Thanks for the reverse jinx.

                      Since this post Profar leads the Padres in WAR, wRC+, SB and OBP as wells as being tied or one behind in HR's runs and RBI.

                      And tonight he's 2-4 with 3 runs and 3 RBI

                      Padre fans thank you!

                      PS. Suarez to the IL, Morejon called up.
                      If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                      Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                      Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                      • #2126
                        A few notes.

                        Myers is our with a Knee (not that anyone has him rostered outside of NL onlys) and has opted against surgery so it's 6+ weeks and a good chance he'll be replaced at the deadline even though Mazara is hitting for Avg (sample) he's most likely not the guy who'll be there come season's end.

                        Profar has entrenched himself as their leadoff hitter and currently owns the 2nd best OPS on the team.

                        Grisham, Voit and Cronenworth have all started to come around at the plate.

                        Tatis had a CT scan yesterday and the fact there's NO info yet makes me feel, he's still a ways away from swinging the bat--making his return in July at the earliest (there are rumblings this could stretch out for a while.)

                        Even without Fernando, the Padres are off to their best start in history through 62 games.

                        Enjoy.
                        If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                        Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                        Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                        • #2127
                          Exciting for the padres. Thanks for the insights on Mazara.

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                          • #2128
                            It's mid-June and Tatis can't swing a bat. In a redraft 12 team H2H with 3 IL slots do you drop him if you have 3 other significant injuries?

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                            • #2129
                              Originally posted by virgonomic View Post
                              It's mid-June and Tatis can't swing a bat. In a redraft 12 team H2H with 3 IL slots do you drop him if you have 3 other significant injuries?
                              no....
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                              • #2130
                                Originally posted by virgonomic View Post
                                It's mid-June and Tatis can't swing a bat. In a redraft 12 team H2H with 3 IL slots do you drop him if you have 3 other significant injuries?
                                Tough call. Maybe. Obviously he will get claimed, but I'm thinking we're not going to see Tatis until mid-August at the earliest, if at all.

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