*** VD 5 Commentary Thread ***

[johnnya24]

So VD5 is tabled to be a Peak Year draft ... and VD6 may be an Auction (if we can figure it out).

I've got about 750 hitter peak years added to the spreadsheet so far. A-G are done with the likeliest players, and some of the best players at the other letters.

Hitter-Peak-Years Spreadsheet

I'm adding the 3 and 5 year peaks, and taking into account Decades and Franchises. This would actually be a very good format for a Franchise draft, or any combo-draft.

If anyone wants to help, you can download this blank SS, and have a crack at the following letters/players (please state which letter you will be tackling so we don't replicate the work ... takes about 25 mins-1 hour to do a letter):

W

Honus Wagner (done)
Ted Williams (done)
Larry Walker
Billy Williams
Dave Winfield
Hack Wilson
Ken Williams
John Ward
Maury Wills
Walt Wilmot
Paul Waner
Zach Wheat

V

George Van Haltren (done)
Mo Vaughn
Greg Vaughn
Arky Vaughn
Omar Visquel
Robin Ventura
Eddie Van Slyke
Bobby Veach
Mickey Vernon
Joey Votto

T

Frank Thomas
Jim Thome
Sam Thompson
Tommy Tucker
Hal Trosky
Alan Trammell
Mike Tiernan
Miguel Tejada
Bill Terry
Joe Torre
Pie Traynor

S

Sammy Sosa
Garry sheffield
Mike Schmidt
Harry Stovey
Al Simmons
Duke Snider
Ryan Sandberg
Willie Stargell
Tris Speaker
George Sisler
Vern Stephens
Jim Stenzel
BJ Surhoff
Ted Simmons
Mike Sweeney

R

Babe Ruth (done)
Alex Rodriguez (done)
Frank Robinson (done)
Manny Ramirez
Tim Raines
Jim Rice
Cal Ripken
Ivan Rodriguez
Pete Rose
Jim Ryan
John Reily
Jackie Robinson
Sam Rice
Hardy Richardson

P

Mike Piazza (done)
Rafael Palmeiro
Albert Pujols
Tony Perez
Dave Parker
Vada Pinson
Kirby Puckett
Fred Pfeffer
Boog Powell

O

Mel Ott (done)
Jim O'Rourke (done)
Magglio Ordonez
David Ortiz
Tip O'Neil
Lefty O'Doul
Amos Otis
Darby O'Brien
Tony Oliva
Al Oliver
John Olerud
Dave Orr
Ben Oglivie

How to:

1. Go to www.baseballreference.com
2. Find player and highlight the desired peak years by clicking the first and last of your selected range
3. A pop up appears with the accumulated data from your selected range.
4. Copy/paste the entire second line starting from "Average" ... start your paste on the Column marked "Stat"
5. Then copy/paste the missing ratios from the first line of the pop-up (BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+).
6. Fill in the year Years range, eligible decade, whether it is a 3 or 5 year peak, and then the eligible franchise(s)*

*Franchises are calculated by majority within the range. If X player has 3 years at STL and 2 at NYY, he's a STL player for those peak years.

If the same players has another 5 year range with 2xNYY, 2xSFG, 1xCHC he is eligible at NYY & SFG for that range. I have been putting a question mark next to players with 3+ eligible franchises, but I suppose they will be eligible at all 3 in such circumstances. I found one old time player who would be eligible at 6 different franchises over a consecutive 6 year period.

We can of course still use the old Franchise rules as well ... this will just provide another option down the line ... if we're having to input the data by hand, may as well cover all the bases now.

[revo]

I know you've put a lot of time in on this next one, but wouldn't it make sense to do another BY-only draft, maybe with some additions (decades/KOs/etc)?

[TS Garp]

I know you've put a lot of time in on this next one, but wouldn't it make sense to do another BY-only draft, maybe with some additions (decades/KOs/etc)?

I was also hoping we could do BY w/decades next.

[TS Garp]

I do not really want to do another 5x5 draft at all. I like having new people participating but this format is not that awesome.

I just like it as a change of pace in terms of altering player values, having new players in the pool, etc. But the peak year draft would do that, too. I'm in no matter what, but I do think BY decades would be fun at some point.

[johnnya24]

I know you've put a lot of time in on this next one, but wouldn't it make sense to do another BY-only draft, maybe with some additions (decades/KOs/etc)?

Trying to keep everyone happy

[hacko]

I just like it as a change of pace in terms of altering player values, having new players in the pool, etc. But the peak year draft would do that, too. I'm in no matter what, but I do think BY decades would be fun at some point.

I would like to do a " Hacko Wins Draft" if I have a vote.

[heyelander]

I would like to do a " Hacko Wins Draft" if I have a vote.

So you want an old guys likely to break down draft?

[The Feral Slasher]

Might be a good time to start discussions for VD5. I don't care what it is really, people seem kind of interested in the letters/decades, I would be up for that.

[TS Garp]

Show of hands for BY with letters/decades?

[revo]

Show of hands for BY with letters/decades?

I'd be up for that.

[heyelander]

sure.

[johnnya24]

Whatev's the peak period data isn't nearly ready ... and I'm too busy to finalize it all right now.

So letters / decade BY sounds OK to me.

[hacko]

Whatev's the peak period data isn't nearly ready ... and I'm too busy to finalize it all right now.

So letters / decade BY sounds OK to me.

ok by me

[johnnya24]

I'd prefer letters/decades 10x10. Anyone opposed to that? Show of hands if you're opposed.

I'd prefer that also

[johnnya24]

Have we ever done decades and letters before? I know we've done letters and franchises.