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    Would anyone be disappointed if California seceeded?

    More Californians are now hoping their state secedes from the United States, a new poll shows.

    About 32 percent of Californians want to create their own country, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll found
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    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/315804-more-californians-than-ever-want-state-to-secede-from-us
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    Last edited by cardboardbox; 01-24-2017, 05:03 PM.
    "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

    "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden
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    Dems should be concerned about this - as it would likely take a large block of electoral college votes out of their side.
    It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by baldgriff View Post
      Dems should be concerned about this - as it would likely take a large block of electoral college votes out of their side.
      yes, it would completely change politics in the rest of the country. I'm guessing CA pays more to the federal govt than they get back so thats a reason for the rest of us to want them to stay.
      "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

      "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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      • #4
        I would be disappointed if any state seceded. It would essentially be a concession that people of diverse ideologies cannot coexist.

        California, I say to you what I said to Texas in 2012 - put on your big boy pants and learn to play nice with others.
        "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
        "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
        "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."

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        • #5
          damnit, I speeled seceded wrong.

          :sigh:
          "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

          "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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          • #6
            Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
            damnit, I speeled seceded wrong.

            :sigh:
            You did not succeed in correctly spelling "secede."
            "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
            "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
            "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by senorsheep View Post
              You did not succeed in correctly spelling "secede."
              great, now I'll probably spell it as secceed next time.
              "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

              "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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              • #8
                Originally posted by baldgriff View Post
                Dems should be concerned about this - as it would likely take a large block of electoral college votes out of their side.
                Trump won the electoral college, 304-227 (7 faithless electors)
                without California it's 304-172

                Trump got 63.0M votes, Hillary got 65.8M
                she led by about 2.9M votes overall - but she trailed by 500,000 if you take out CA

                if the Ds can't lead in the other 49 states when Trump is running, they never will
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                • #9
                  Don't forget about Baja, AZ
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
                    yes, it would completely change politics in the rest of the country. I'm guessing CA pays more to the federal govt than they get back so thats a reason for the rest of us to want them to stay.
                    Used to be true, but no longer. Federal spending in Cali, including military spending, outpaces tax revenue by a ratio of 1.18:1, based on 2015 data. That does put them in the bottom third for ratio, however.
                    I'm just here for the baseball.

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                    • #11
                      California contributes 13.3 percent of the US economy. It's the 7th largest economy IN THE WORLD. It contributes much of our agricultural products, it's the #1 dairy state...the list goes on and on. Suffice to say, the US needs California, period.
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                      • #12
                        Meh - Build a wall.............

                        It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
                        Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address

                        "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by baldgriff View Post
                          Meh - Build a wall.............

                          I think we could take them in a war.

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                          • #14
                            Given their location to the ocean and access to the US infrastructure, we would probably have to provide them with military support in order to protect "our own borders". I cant see California raising much of a military - they would be ripe for the picking if we didnt do something.

                            More military expense...... great.
                            It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
                            Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address

                            "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Judge Jude View Post
                              Trump won the electoral college, 304-227 (7 faithless electors)
                              without California it's 304-172

                              Trump got 63.0M votes, Hillary got 65.8M
                              she led by about 2.9M votes overall - but she trailed by 500,000 if you take out CA
                              if the Ds can't lead in the other 49 states when Trump is running, they never will
                              Yeah, but if you take Texas out instead (more realistic of two unrealistic possibilities), Hillary's popular vote margin is even more massive, and the I think the electoral vote margin comes down to three. The difference becomes the faithless electors, and what might they do in that circumstance?

                              That's the funny thing about this...you leave out the biggest state in the Union, this happens. You leave out a single county in each of three other states, we have a different president. Just games at this point.
                              If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. - Karl Popper

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